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is having a HB who's friendzoned u useful for meeting her hot friends?

big weezy

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i know normally if you're friendzoned you should cut contact and walk away from the HB as you have no chance of getting any with her. this HB i been seeing has a bf, generally insecure, attention wh0re tendencies too.. keeps saying she wants to be friends and gets p1ssy at me when i say we're not friends. i really should have not bothered seeing after the 1st supposed date as she's just using me for attention. i met with her on sunday to hang out to see if i could make any head way but that's when she gives me the whole friends BS, tbh i dont know if even if she didn't have a bf whether i'd still be friendzoned. she's quite connected around here, knows lots of hot girls, has lots of cousins n family, lots of potential plates. HOWEVER cos i've made it clear i'm interested in her, is she unlikely going to be any help in regards to introductions to her hot friends?

i think she'll just want to keep me around for attention and to be desired, and isn't willing to share that. we met for the 3rd time yesterday and she got angry with me cos i keep making sexual innuendo comments which she finds sleazy, she threatened me with the 'if you make one more comment like that, im leaving' i said 'fine, go' calling her bluff, then we had pretty much silent treatment for next minute or so. she goes 'i can see why u dont have a gf..' i go 'yeah, cos i spend time out with women with bf's..'

we ended it with me saying this is the last time we'll hang out.. calling her bluff. towards the end of me walking her home i could tell she sensed she was losing me so she kino'd me for the first time. when we got to her door and said goodbye she goes 'so is this the last time we'll be out together?' i go 'i dont know, maybe, we'll see..' she then makes a sarcastic mimic of me 'i dont know..' basically throwing a mini strop and then we parted ways. i feel like i should stick to my guns and just leave it unless she contacts me. and if she does, suggest she introduces me to her hot friends. will this look bad if im pursuing her then tryna pursue her friends? it's not my fault she has a bf she loves.
 

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Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

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Zerro

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If she's an attention ***** then NO, because she'll try to keep your attention on her and won't want any of her girlfriends potentially stealing you away.

If she isn't an attention ***** then YES, because if she likes you enough to keep as a friend then she probably thinks that you're a good enough guy for some of her girlfriends and is much more likely to introduce you to them. Heck, she might even encourage it and vouch for you.

I've seen it both ways and the second situation is the only time that it is worth keeping them around. If I had walked away from the second situation then I probably would have never met the chick that I'm seeing now.
 

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ive never been in this situation, but I think anything can happen here.

maybe she has told some of her friends about how she friend zoned you.. and imagine a hot friend of hers knowing all this before she meets you. what kind of impression do you think this would make? but hey, peoples opinions can always change once they actually meet you.

what id do is game some of her friends, and if they know about the whole friend zoning situation theyd probably wonder whats wrong with the HB that friendzoned me. well in your situation they would probably think she friendzoned you because of her bf.. but anyways in my opinion having this HB as a friend has legit potential and opens so many doors. just imagine hanging out with a bunch of em and being seen with all these HBs.

and it would look bad only if you made it obvs that youre pursuing her friends. but i think if you do it properly it would work. cuz think about it, if she can tell youre pursuing her friends, she would probably call you out on it. but if she senses that one or more of her friends might be into you, thats not your fault........ :).

so instead of her using you for attention and to be desired etc etc, use her to meet a ton of HB's and for social proof.

cuz she knows youre interested in her, im really not sure what the result will be. maybe get back on decent terms with her and see?
 

PapiChulo

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I think you already know what you are doing. She will just get jealous and make sure that everyone of her girlies puts you in the no fu$k-zone. Did you try to make strong physical moves on her or maybe get her drunk?
 

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They will think that you weren't good enough for her, and they don't want her left overs. Not to mention she will give you bad press.
 

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