"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Is brunch a red flag?

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Is a girl who brunches weekly on Sundays a red flag?

I've read some posts here where a girl who goes out on Sunday mornings to catch up with her girlfriends should have a red flag attached, but it makes no sense.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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In the UK its become popular in recent years for women to get tarted up and white girl wasted before 2pm under the guise of " brunch with the girlies"

In my city its very very common to see groups of girls done up to the 9's absolutely hammered in the middle of a Saturday afternoon

Most are usually very horny and flirty too easy pickings for any guy wanting to try his luck

I remember about a year ago I was actually rubbing a girls \|/ whilst she was complaining about her boyfriend

I said would he mind me doing this and she just laughed :rofl:
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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In the UK its become popular in recent years for women to get tarted up and white girl wasted before 2pm under the guise of " brunch with the girlies"

In my city its very very common to see groups of girls done up to the 9's absolutely hammered in the middle of a Saturday afternoon

Most are usually very horny and flirty too easy pickings for any guy wanting to try his luck

I remember about a year ago I was actually rubbing a girls \|/ whilst she was complaining about her boyfriend

I said would he mind me doing this and she just laughed :rofl:
I live in the UK and can confirm, in my city we often see groups of girls drunk, dressed in skimpy outfits very early in the day.

It's called brunch.. just an excuse to get hammered and have casual sex to be honest.
 

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Yes it is a red flag. She likes to eat out and day drink with her girl friends. Does that sound like wifey material?
If it’s every Sunday then yes. Once in a blue moon isn’t bad though.
Perfectly said @EyeBRollin . That doesn't sound like wifey material and this isn't likely to be a good longer term girlfriend.

Brunch is overpriced. It shows poor judgment and poor financial management if done regularly. The woman is likely to have not so good female friends. A woman who regularly brunches is a bougie woman who is often pretentious. She might even be careerist too.
 

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In the UK its become popular in recent years for women to get tarted up and white girl wasted before 2pm under the guise of " brunch with the girlies"

In my city its very very common to see groups of girls done up to the 9's absolutely hammered in the middle of a Saturday afternoon

Most are usually very horny and flirty too easy pickings for any guy wanting to try his luck

I remember about a year ago I was actually rubbing a girls \|/ whilst she was complaining about her boyfriend

I said would he mind me doing this and she just laughed :rofl:
Saturday? The only brunch in the US happens on Sunday at most places.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Brunch, for one, is inextricably tied to drinking culture. Not only did the meal popularize the habit of daytime drinking, but it gave birth to several ****tails, like the Bloody Mary and Mimosa. In fact, it's attributed with spreading the now common practice of mixing alcohol with juices and other drinks. In the 1920s, during prohibition, diluting spirits with other beverages helped hide the fact that the alcohol hadn't been aged quite as long.

The new wave of mixed drinks, often centered around citrus, eventually helped shed stigmas about drinking during daylight, especially for women and members of the middle class. In the early to mid 1900s, brunch offered a platform for people to drink during the day in a socially acceptable fashion.
This sounds like a thing that promiscuous women would find appealing.

The "Sex and the City" women were going to brunches during the 1998-2004 airing of that TV show.

The SoSuave forum even had a thread about the effects of "Sex and the City" on dating culture in 2004 right as the original airing period ended.


Back to another quote from the Washington Post article...

"Cultural trends tend to go from the coasts to the center," said Farha Ternikar, the author of Brunch: A History. "The Midwest is slower on food trends with the exception of Chicago."
Brunch was bigger on the East and West coasts before becoming trendy in places like Nashville and Dallas.
 

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Considering breakfast is one of the easiest meals to make, mimosas are just OJ & champagne, and "brunch" is one of the most overrated and overpriced deals, I think laziness is a bigger red flag than gossip girls. They can do that without omelettes.
 

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Its no problemo untill it is a problemo. Anything a woman does :

-on a regular is hazardous. It creates the perfect opportunity for excuses to lie to you.

-with friends means you will never have the perhaps necessary influence over her.


Let's say you find the perfect girl . But she goes to brunch every damn week. You are dependent upon whether her friends are not total slvuts. If they are..you already fecked .

On top off that ,even if they are regular women you must have them on your side. How can you build anything with her if you are a dude whose working fulltime, and only has two days a week to spend with her, knowing that one day = always occupied to her damn friends? Are we in highschool?

Yes ,people will shyte on this take, call it insecure, controlling. But I've learned the hard way that these things seem innocent, untill you start to notice that it becomes problematic.

E.g : at some point you'll notice that this Sunday brunch is holy like going to church.

It basically becomes (yet another) thing that is more important than you/yall relationship.

Especially in the beginning of the relationship I'd prefer her to prioritize ME and me alone. Only exception is emergency ( family)cases. And even the latter has it limits.
 
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"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Is this a woman you are in an LTR with? If so, I could see HOW it MIGHT be a red flag depending on the company she has at this weekly brunch. But that depends.

If you are talking about a chick you are dating casually? No - it is not a red flag anymore then you liking to go get beers with your guy friends on a Saturday night is a red flag.
 

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I live in a popular area for brunching, and it seems like the two common crowds I see are the Ratchet wannabe boogie women and hopeless romantic millennial girl with a dog at home. I do enjoy a brunch on occasion, but there's no way I could do it every sunday. It literally takes away your whole sunday because I always feel so sluggish and tired after it. If a woman is doing brunch every sunday then she has bad priorities and a lot of toxic friends.
 

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I live in a popular area for brunching, and it seems like the two common crowds I see are the Ratchet wannabe boogie women and hopeless romantic millennial girl with a dog at home. I do enjoy a brunch on occasion, but there's no way I could do it every sunday. It literally takes away your whole sunday because I always feel so sluggish and tired after it. If a woman is doing brunch every sunday then she has bad priorities and a lot of toxic friends.
This. Who the feck has time to go on a weekly brunch with the same people???

A brunch like this should be something she does lets say 3/4 times a year.
 

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This thread is full of insane conclusions... A girl with a vibrant, independent social life is a green flag. Nothing worse than a girl who has no life outside the relationship.
Obviously if she gets wrecked every Sunday it might be an issue, but OP said nothing about that.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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