"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Yes it is true that with young materialistic superficial females the type of phone you have affects their willingness to give you their number a cool hip iPhone, droid, hero or nexusone will get you more numbers than a razor hone from 2001..lol
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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so does your car. but not really the type of girl i should be after.

I met one at the bar and she kept playing with my iphone. she loves it. I drove her in my car, and one drover her in my dad's 3.2 TL, and she loved that too.

she went bananas when I cooked for her at my house a couple nights ago. Even though she's a current onitis, these things of her kinda get on my nerves.

she's really hot and fit, it hit me that she's really shallow when i was playing pool with her and she remarked "i would kill myself before i end up like that" and motioned towards a thick girl. I was in shock. I woulda totally done thickgirl (hb7.5) without blinking.
 

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I think this thread is complete nonsense!

I think girls kinda like it when a guy doesn't sellout to all the trends etc.
 

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DonGorgon said:
Yes it is true that with young materialistic superficial females the type of phone you have affects their willingness to give you their number
That's not true at all. If my phone is out, that means the chick already is in the process of giving me her number. Unless of course my opening line is, "Hey look at my phone."

a cool hip iPhone, droid, hero or nexusone will get you more numbers than a razor hone from 2001..lol
Numbers from gay men, possibly.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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lorekeeper said:
no no, f!d, Goran mentioned young materialistic superficial girl. they get that name cause they are young, materialistic and superficial! ;)
Fair point. In a slightly unrelated point, I find the older I'm getting, the easier it is getting younger girls...I've had three girls recently all around 19 very interested in me! and I'm 24, and making hardly no effort with them. :rockon:
 

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are you saying i should get rid of my blackberry storm
 

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Tiguere said:
are you saying i should get rid of my blackberry storm
no man keep it. smart phones are incredibly handy - I have iphone...but its more about functionality than image....fvck that sh!t! lol
 

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My iPhone went around a club while I was on vacation a while back (when they were new) with girls playing the games on it and stuff. It came back with 6-8 new contacts added, some with pictures. ;)
 

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It's not about having expensive sh!t; it's about being stylish. I've seen tons of dudes that probably have gotten most of their clothes from second hand stores be way more stylish than some douchebag that thinks he's cool because he wears collared shirts and has an iPhone.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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JLay87 said:
It's not about having expensive sh!t; it's about being stylish. I've seen tons of dudes that probably have gotten most of their clothes from second hand stores be way more stylish than some douchebag that thinks he's cool because he wears collared shirts and has an iPhone.
iphone is number one phone on earth.. not cause its most powerful ... its the most stylish smooth phone .. its haas set a standard of cool but is also a fantastic smart phone.
 

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MikeBrown30 said:
It's just a phone. If you think having xyz-brand phone or xyz-brand car makes you a better person, you have deeper issues.

yup deeper human issues..lol... competing for and obtaining plenty of high quality resources is a naturally occuring human instinctive behaviour as is denial..

remember also : its not how you feel about yourself that is important .. it s all about how the people you want things from feel about you...lol:up:
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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DonGorgon said:
lol.. um thats funny.. explain.
Sorry - missed this before.

They were playing CubeRunner and that stupid bubbles game, and taking each others pictures with it, and I guess it really is easy to use because a bunch of girls put their names, pictures and cell numbers in my contacts while they were playing with the phone. I suppose one probably did it and then all her friends had to copy her.
 

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DonGorgon said:
wow.. i hate folks touching my phone too much and pressing buttons... femles tend to snoop and ready my texts too much..lol
lolz. like totallyz.
 

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It's just a phone...

You keep spending that $300 a month on iPhone service, I'll put that into maintaining my car. We'll see who does better at the end of the year.

You trying to turn this site into Cosmo? You don't NEED the latest "accesory".
 

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DonGorgon said:
wow.. i hate folks touching my phone too much and pressing buttons... femles tend to snoop and ready my texts too much..lol
I don't save texts and whatever happens to be on the phone, it's not a State secret. I have a spare in any case but really it was a nice upscale place and I wasn't worried. All I need is some Windex and good as new.




Alle_Gory said:
It's just a phone...

You keep spending that $300 a month on iPhone service, I'll put that into maintaining my car.
Well really it's just $100 a month, and I don't have a home phone any more, so it's pretty minimal part of my expenses and I use it a lot in my daily life to look at my stock prices, make trades, find things, look things up and sometimes I even use it to communicate with others.

On the other hand, what sort of car requires $300 a month to maintain? Mine only needs a periodic service every 5K miles and some fuel once in a while. Sounds like either a very exotic car (which is a bad investment, no matter how much fun it is) or a real clunker.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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