"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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IOI's from very hot girls, still don't know what to do

Suspens

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"you look really nice."
I know, wanna chat up sometime?

"are YOU a player?"
It will be up to you to find out.

"nah, I'm too old."
Why would you say that really? What you say doesn't matter alot though, you just gotta keep the conversation going and evade ejection.

We need to work on communication/conversation skills. I am suffering from a similiar problem, I can't keep the conversation going.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Or "Thank you. Fancy grabbing a coffee/drink/protein shake/smoothie?"
Phil, have you field tested asking a HB to get a protein shake? :p
 

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Last week, I was down town barhopping by myself.

Literally, the hottest girl in the whole city came up to me and said "you look really nice." I had seen her a few times before and she has seen me, too. She was not serving me so she was not just after a tip. I still didn't know what to say. My conversational skills are horrible.

At another bar, there was a song on that goes "I'm not a player, I just crash a lot." And the bartender came up to me and said "are YOU a player?" I guess I was giving off that vibe.

I just said some thing about "nah, I'm too old." And she told me I'm not old. Then, I didn't know what to say.

Even when very attractive women basically directly hit on me, I am still at a loss of what to do.
YOU will get better at this in time.

You are insecure because you are new to this. You don't know what works.
 
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"you look really nice."
I know, wanna chat up sometime?

"are YOU a player?"
It will be up to you to find out.

"nah, I'm too old."
Why would you say that really? What you say doesn't matter alot though, you just gotta keep the conversation going and evade ejection.

We need to work on communication/conversation skills. I am suffering from a similiar problem, I can't keep the conversation going.
Yes, and the fact that I was basically stumbling around down town full of martinis didn't help.

I don't think there is anything "really clever" that could have helped the situation. I think girls see through all that.

When asked if I was a player
YOU will get better at this in time.

You are insecure because you are new to this. You don't know what works.
What would you have done?


I'm not new to sex. Not new to life on the planet. I might be new to socializing with hot women, but at this point I'm not sure how much of that I actually want to do. I have joined MGTOW and RoK forums recently, but am not allowed to post yet.


I'm experienced enough to know that their stinky vagina hole isn't going to save my life and that the "beauty" of any women wears off in a few hours or even minutes.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Last week, I was down town barhopping by myself.

Literally, the hottest girl in the whole city came up to me and said "you look really nice."
your response: "I know, right? thank you though. would you prefer a selfie with me or an autograph?"

And the bartender came up to me and said "are YOU a player?" I guess I was giving off that vibe.
"my PS4 gets a lot of mileage"

I just said some thing about "nah, I'm too old." And she told me I'm not old. Then, I didn't know what to say.
"I'm actually 57, but I age well. I use very expensive skin cream you see"
 
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