"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Invited a chick to go see a movie; she didn't come

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I don't like talking to girls over the phone. They get boring and usually talk about themselves. I like to talk to them in person where I can touch them and get my **** sucked.
 

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Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I don't like talking to girls over the phone. They get boring and usually talk about themselves. I like to talk to them in person where I can touch them and get my **** sucked.
But don't they need to at least acknowledge you in order to see you in person. Seems like you are just giving them a way to ignore you.
 

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Yeah text didn't go through. Anywho so my buddy and his gf are going to watch a movie tonight at his place, he invited me and this chick. She is saying she doesn't like the movie just like his GF doesn't.

Here's how it went:

Me - "hey get my text about the movie"

Her -"No, but Jeana told me about it"

Me -"oh Unicel sucks mad wang, anywho get your ass up there"

Her - "Idk I might, borat sucked"

Me - "Suit yourself"
 

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Yeah text didn't go through.
Yeahhhhhh...... Riiiighhhhhhtttt....... :rolleyes:

itishe said:
Me - "hey get my text about the movie"

Her -"No, but Jeana told me about it"

Me -"oh Unicel sucks mad wang, anywho get your ass up there"

Her - "Idk I might, borat sucked"

Me - "Suit yourself"
Was this another riveting text exchange?
 

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Recap of today. She told me to call her on myspace. I called her about 5 hours later when I was heading to the gym and left a message. I basically said in the message that I'm going to my bud's and she should come.

She never called back, but she did show up at the house to watch the movie with us. We all laid on a futon. She laid next to me and eventually I put my arm around her I kept stroking her ear and hair. After a while I took my other hand and grabbed her hand and put my hand over it. The thing is after about fifteen minutes or so she took her hand away. I didn't get a kiss close in because I just didn't feel right doing it in front of my friends.


While I'm pretty sure she's interested in the fact that she showed up (she would of been the 3rd wheel if I hadn't so there would of been no point; remember she also said she hated the movie), and let me cuddle next to her, etc. Just was a little thrown off by her taking her hand back.
 

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And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

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So now you need a congregation to woo her? :down: Isolation is your friend!
 

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I would of preferred being alone with her, but this came up and it was time to spend with her and get kino in.
 
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Romantic pursuits are best suited for only the indivisuals involved and not for an audience - of course she was reserved!!! :rolleyes:
 

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Yeah yeah and the fact that she's really reserved/self-concisous to begin with didn't help. I'll set up one more date before I go out of town this Friday. Try to get it to be just me and her.
 

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Was this a flake out or truth?

Today she pulled some ****.

I called her about 11 AM today and she was out buying her prom dress in another town with a friend of hers. I had a very small conversation that which I admit could of been carried on, but I was heading to a bud's house. Anywho I tell her we should hang out tonight seeing I'm going out of town for a few days, she says she's gotta work and she says, "I'll call you or something after work". "Or something" is usually a sign they won't call.

Anywho I was going about my business, and hit the gym till about 7:45 (she gets off work at about 7 or so) and I noticed she hadn't called. I was going to invite her to play some pool so I say **** her and go play with a few buds. I get out to my car about 9 and I see she sent me a text.

Her: "Hey what's up"

Me: "nothing, just got done playing some pool"

then a few minutes later I get this:

"Oh. Well I just wanted to let you know that i can't do ne thing bcuz my mom and i got in a huge fight n she made me come home... sorry ;("

I replied, "Oh. well I get back sat. we should hang out after that sometime."

She hasn't replied to that.

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Sound like I got flaked on? I think she was being truthful but the fact she couldn't call and tell me is a bit suspicious. If so is there anything I can say that will establish the fact that I don't like being flaked on?
 

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She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

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The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Let her call you once in awhile - and this will show her interest level - Don't be overbearing! Did you go to movies yet? Or is this different girl?

Anywho, I'm not going to respond to this thread until you stop saying, "Anywho' :rolleyes:
 

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itishe said:
Today she pulled some ****.

I called her about 11 AM today and she was out buying her prom dress in another town with a friend of hers. I had a very small conversation that which I admit could of been carried on, but I was heading to a bud's house. Anywho I tell her we should hang out tonight seeing I'm going out of town for a few days, she says she's gotta work and she says, "I'll call you or something after work". "Or something" is usually a sign they won't call.

Anywho I was going about my business, and hit the gym till about 7:45 (she gets off work at about 7 or so) and I noticed she hadn't called. I was going to invite her to play some pool so I say **** her and go play with a few buds. I get out to my car about 9 and I see she sent me a text.

Her: "Hey what's up"

Me: "nothing, just got done playing some pool"

then a few minutes later I get this:

"Oh. Well I just wanted to let you know that i can't do ne thing bcuz my mom and i got in a huge fight n she made me come home... sorry ;("

I replied, "Oh. well I get back sat. we should hang out after that sometime."

She hasn't replied to that.

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Sound like I got flaked on? I think she was being truthful but the fact she couldn't call and tell me is a bit suspicious. If so is there anything I can say that will establish the fact that I don't like being flaked on?
Her IL doesnt sound high at all. It does seem that she's still leaving an opening to you and still somewhat interested, since she's still even talking to you still. If anything I say dont contact her for a week or 2. And when you do, do ask her out. Dont use the term 'should' or 'hang out' - it shows indecisiveness. set a time and pick a place/activity to do.

Some girls will ignore your advances/lose interest if they believe you're not interested in them sexually/romantically - so do let it be known.
 

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itishe said:
...I replied, "Oh. well I get back sat. we should hang out after that sometime."

She hasn't replied to that.
Masochist... :rolleyes:
 

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who gives a sh1t? she has no integrity and basically said "fvck you" to your face by not even having the decency to reply to you
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Anywho, **** you.

Haha

Yep this is the same chick I went to the movies with, and the same chick I cuddled with while watching the movie at a friend's house. Last night about an hour later I got a text saying to call her whenever I was done. So I did and I find out she sent that text right after her "fight with mom" one and it just came later. She was sleeping so we only talked for a few minutes. I told her to call me today and she did while I was taking a nap.

She left a message on myspace saying this:
"heyyy.
so i called you back and you didn't answer...soo...
you should call me sometime this weekend...k?"

I replied with this,

"Hey you ****, I was taking a nap then I heard my phone going nuts, was too lazy to go grab it. I found out I'm leaving tomorrow reeallly early and not tonight but gotta work tonight :(.

Anywho, I should be back saturday sometime. We'll have to do something this weekend, we should see if you can kick my ass in pool."

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I was going to call her back but decided not to after getting that message and the fact she couldn't call me last night. She's very insecure and shy so I think she likes the guy showing alot of interest first, I.E. making the first few calls to her, blah blah.
 

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I think she's mad interested.

She just replied with this:

"hey...
i suck at pool...puhhh.
i work on saturday till 530 or 7, not sure, but we can do sumthing after that if you want :)
ne wayz, i'll tty if you call me back or on sat or w/e...
<3
M "

I replied with:

"Haha sounds like you're afraid of the phone :). If I'm not too busy I'll call ya today but I got a ton of **** to do before I take off so I'll call you saturday for sure.

BTW Pool it is :) "
 
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Give her and your phone a break - don't call her until saturday!

You don't say "anywho" to her do you? It is not a very masculine word - don't ask me why, it just isn't!!
 

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I'm going to call her Saturday, shoot some pool with her, maybe see a movie. Above all I'm going to make out with this broad... if not, I'm going to get a god damn kiss.
 

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I've noticed something today while surfing around on Myspace. Under her comments I noticed two guys have said, "sorry I couldn't make it to the movies last saturday, was probably fun"... this happens to be the same day I went to the movies with her and her girl buddy.

This bugs me because I set up the date, not her. But one of these guys is also a boyfriend of one of her close friends so I don't think he'd be showing up to outmack me if he would of came.

Either way very interesting.
 

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Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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