"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Introducing myself, what I'm here for.

AF77

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Since I'm going to be around a while annoying the **** out of people with questions I thought I'd say a quick hello.
I'm a fitness model for a few companies randomly, and computer specialist, still in college, upper years. I make about 350 a week, and pay all my own bills, so I'm making just enough to date comfortably, haha.
If you have any questions about dieting, getting hyooge, pharmacy, drugs, supps, I'm probably the man to ask.
If you have a question about dancing, I am NOT the man to ask :p
My biggest deal is holding women on a pedestal, and One-itis. I have read most of the articles here, but can use some reminder. I am either really really good looking, or pretty rough looking (Bulking and cutting, sodium issues, it's a model thing...).
I don't drink or do drugs, period. But I play with supplements and legal **** you guys didn't know existed ;). I like all sorts of music.
I'm in TN.
Can a mod/admin change my name from AF 77 to A77 please?

And if you ever need anyone to just talk to, pm me and I'll get you my AIM, MSN, even maybe my cell after a while. I generally like everybody.

Any questions? Thanks everybody.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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WC2

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Let me guess Abercrombie and Fitch 77?

I was in that "get hyoooge" phase for awhile back in my early college days. I'd spend more time at the gym getting bigger than getting smarter. Go figure.

Well, here's the truth AF-- women don't care how big you are. Actually the fact that you spend that much time in the gym is a turn off to women. Why would women want a guy who's more worried about his proteins and amino acids than having fun? Guys who take themselves too seriously make women's vaginas shrivel up.

No drinking or drugs? Can't really hate on that. Ask yourself however, are you keeping these healthy habits to keep that physique (meaning you're ultimately doing this for women) or are you doing this to live a healthy life style and in short live a longer life?

Life is short and I see too many guys waste their life away in the gym while they can be out doing what's most important in my opinion - making friends and acquaintances and having great memories to look back on.

Sure, I'll hit the gym 2 - 3 times a week for a short time. I admit, I still have a little of that meathead in me. But I've realized that by ramping back on my gym routine, I've ramped up on being a better person to be around.

Welcome to the forums.
 

oakraiderz2

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Uh..thanks sunshine. Good to know youre a model and what not. How about the rest of your life story...
 

AF77

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WC2, you have to be kidding me.

I enjoy my gym time. So do a **** ton of other males/females.
I don't know what that rant was about.

But thanks for the welcome?

EDIT: Hopefully I can help someone out here with whatever knowledge I have. I don't know what the attitude problems are about, but maybe I'm just not accustomed to epic *******s.
*******/Jerk != Man, or Alpha Male.
 

619joe

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So what if he works out and keeps fit?Give the man his props right there.It definatly DOESNT do harm if you are fit and built infact it shows much dedication.Besides this guy isnt getting fit just for girls,its for benefiting his life.As long as you arent wasting your time excessively becoming a huge monkey then its fine

Just dont go around bragging and you should be fine man.Unless they really want to know then maybe tell them but keep it on the DL.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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AF77

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yeah

I've never once told a female I was a model. Seriously.
I wouldn't be on this site if I didn't need some tips and have questions, obviously.

Model's, unless they are douchebags, are typically exceptionally modest about what they do. Atleast the ones I know. And i don't know many.

Abercrombie and Fitch 77? No man...
 

MikeYikes122

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AF77 said:
WC2, you have to be kidding me.

I enjoy my gym time. So do a **** ton of other males/females.
I don't know what that rant was about.

But thanks for the welcome?

EDIT: Hopefully I can help someone out here with whatever knowledge I have. I don't know what the attitude problems are about, but maybe I'm just not accustomed to epic *******s.
*******/Jerk != Man, or Alpha Male.
There was a whole lot of truth to what he said. It can be summed up in one quick sentence. Exercising and lifting weights is a good way to enrich your life, but it shouldn't become your life.

In college, I knew tons of dudes who fell into this category. One in particular did Strong Man competitions. The guy was overly obsessive about supplements, his diet and his workout routine to the point that it interfered with his regular life. In fact, he really didn't even have a regular life.

While girls found him good to look at, none of them ever got into bed with him or dated him.

I have no idea if any of that applies to the OP, but I do know that it's something to be aware of.
 

Darth

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Welcome to the site dude. You sound really cool. Your description sounds like me, minus the body;)
 
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