"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Internet Dating Stupidity I Cannot Believe It

tlovemoney

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I am not sure if I should react to this or not....I will admit I would like to react to it somehow.......



pleasHi. I thought about calling, but this is a kind of awkward topic, so I thought an email would be easier. I apologize if this comes off as less personal than a phone call.
So...I did get your answering machine message and it was very sweet of you to see if I was free on Valentine's Day. I was actually on retreat, which was such a good thing for me.
Anyway, I know I should have called to tell you this before, but I really didn't know how to explain. Retreat aside, I was interested in meeting you, but my dilemma is this: Even with our rather technologically challenged first phone call, I would say that it appeared as though there might be some potential with you. That said, I have begun talking to another man and there seems to be potential for a good match there as well. It's not yet serious and I don't know where it's going, but I am the type who prefers to focus on one relationship at a time. Since I "met" him first, I feel as though I should pursue that relationship first. While I am ever hopeful that the next relationship will be "the one", I realize that I only have a limited time to pursue the options that internet dating poses. So, I would like to know if I have your permission to hold onto your phone number - and if you would be open to restarting our conversation if at some point I am available and you are available to continue our conversation? I apologize again for not responding to your phone call earlier, but I really did need the time to sort out for myself how to handle this situation.
e read!:mad: :box:
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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You never even met this chick yet? You asked her out for v day an you dont know her? And you are raging about getting an actually very nicely and well written response blowing you off?

Your ego is so fragile a small child could probably break it just by calling you a dumb dumb or something. Seriously grow some balls and get a life if you are raging over something so miniscule you really need to do a reality check.
 

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ok

Julian,

I am putting this in here to show the stupidity of women. It was a simply gesture and it appears that you miss the point like some savage who cannot be trained!
 

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Ok

JULIAN YOU ARE WRONG ON THIS.

This woman is trying to play one against the other. It was a simply gesture.

This woman sounds like she has some real issues.
 

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You little b1tches show some respect to a vet. You are prolly the same guy anyway and yeah son Im a savage and I can't be trained unlike you, clown. Trained like a damn lapdog the only stupidity here is your online desperation, contribue to the forum dont just come here making 1 post about your problems or getting blown off, son.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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i hope u didn't just make that account to defend yourself. It's a self help forum and people will state their opinions on the issue. You can choose to take the advice or not.

my 2cents...she's an attention *****. don't feed into her ego. i'd go with no response and delete her number from ur phone and move on.
 

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Ironic that the alt user's account is BEAMANRIGHTNOW

Anyway, I'm going to go throw up now.
 
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I don't think it's the woman in question who's having issues. For starters because she knows how to write. And well too.

Send her a message to thank her for her honesty. Wish her luck with the other guy. If it doesn't work out, she has your number.

Holy Jeebus, when did people stop to learn about common courtesies and to see polite rejections as such? Accept it with grace and grace is what you'll leave in her mind.

Smile. You're a man.
 

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I agree, with Alexander, why burn bridges if you do not have too. The only thing you did wrong was not get a date sooner. Just leave her alone, and if she comes back great, if not there are other of girls out there. If there is every a large party you and some friends are having invite her and some friends to attend..
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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As mentioned, asking someone out on a semi-blind date on Valentine's Day for the first time is a mistake. Besides that, just thank her for her mature response and wish her well.

She may not be blowing you off because she isn't interested. Some women really do just take things (or men) one at a time. Go pursue other women and perhaps down the line you may get a phone call from her if she wasn't simply trying to let you down easy.
 

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Seems fair enough to me.

She might be attention seeking, but she might just be keeping her options open, which would seem a sensible thing to do if you're meeting people you hardly know over the internet.
 

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QUICK ANSWER-SPIN MORE PLATES
PROACTIVE ANSWER-never be available on Valentines day
FUTURE ADVICE-U gotta make your date memorable so that thoe other chumps pale in comparison

The reality of Net dating is that women get tons of offers and go on numerous dates. You coulda screen her by writing "U aint 1 of those perpetual multiple daters are you"?

RELAX, the dude might end up being a loser, so U still may have a chance.......just text tease her "howd your date go, is my competition a better kisser, etc"

But be like her and go meet someone else too.
 

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There was SOOO much BS in her e-mail..it's ridiculous. What took her an entire paragraph should have taken 2 sentences. And guys, some women are college professors, lawyers, columnists, etc. She may be used to writing long, lengthy compositions out of habit. I agree with Alexander and TheBucketofTruth. Give her a SHORT reply, and go on about your business.
 

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Wow why so much vittriol so someone who actually took the time to give an explanation.

If you don't like it then move on leave it alone and chalk it up to part of the deal.

Why anyone would waste time getting angry over this is beyond me.

They are women ... they act like crazy people.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Wow why so much vittriol so someone who actually took the time to give an explanation.

If you don't like it then move on leave it alone and chalk it up to part of the deal.

Why anyone would waste time getting angry over this is beyond me.

They are women ... they act like crazy people.
 

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This has got to be a troll but..

Why so much hate in this thread? The women rejected him? so what. Points to her for being very nice and polite and straight up about not wanting a relationship right now. Not very many people are this honest. atleast she had the decency to let him know instead of just blowing him off, or using him for a doormat. that takes class. this woman has very much class.

Like said before. except it with grace, wish her well, and move on. date other girls, and if she comes back to you then great, if not then who cares

you barely even know her
 
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