Player_Supreme
Banned
lol at the russian chicks
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Internet Dating 101
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
KC_Seductive
Don Juan
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You can avoid that with friendfinder. You can select the body type of the women you want to meet. The choices are:
Average
Slim/Petite
Athletic
Ample
A little extra padding
Large
I go for average to athletic. I do like a little extra padding but some women think that means obese.
MRomeo99
Don Juan
That does bring up a good point.
Absolutely without a doubt, NEVER, EVER, EVER meet a girl until you've seen at least 3 pictures. And at least one full body.
Ask me how I know this.
It can be awkward to ask, but it is absolutely necessary. Life is too short to waste any time on people you aren't attracted to. And some women will find one picture to portray them in their absolute best light, and then when you meet them they are hideous.
But, for the most part they get asked that a bunch I bet, so many of them already have 3-10 pictures up. It's the ones with only one picture, which is all face that gives it away. And an "average" body size. Like average means that extra 40 of the junk in the trunk variety is just average. Then again, you'll find some "average" bodies that are kickin too. So, it's kind of a roll of the dice. I usually can tell from glancing at a picture whether they are thick or not. The cheeks always give it away.
Just a word of helpful advice.
M
Absolutely without a doubt, NEVER, EVER, EVER meet a girl until you've seen at least 3 pictures. And at least one full body.
Ask me how I know this.
It can be awkward to ask, but it is absolutely necessary. Life is too short to waste any time on people you aren't attracted to. And some women will find one picture to portray them in their absolute best light, and then when you meet them they are hideous.
But, for the most part they get asked that a bunch I bet, so many of them already have 3-10 pictures up. It's the ones with only one picture, which is all face that gives it away. And an "average" body size. Like average means that extra 40 of the junk in the trunk variety is just average. Then again, you'll find some "average" bodies that are kickin too. So, it's kind of a roll of the dice. I usually can tell from glancing at a picture whether they are thick or not. The cheeks always give it away.
Just a word of helpful advice.
M
Believe me, I've learned. Nowadays, scanners, digital cameras are more readily available. In 1997, 1998 they weren't so popular.
I couldn't say much, because I didn't have a picture up either. I'm not so photogenic, so I will usually give some chicks the benefit of the doubt.
I still prefer the casual introduction through friends, rather than online databases. However, there's something very efficient about the online approach.
I usually have a few more "tests" that a woman must pass before a meeting.
Intellect:
1. You can typically tell a womans educational level by the way she writes.
Desperation:
If a girl has filled out every form on the grid, it can suggest common courtesy or desperation. I usually just read between the lines. Take this one for example, found on DreamMates:
******************************************
About My dream mate
I am looking for a man that will respect me for who i am. who will give me my independence, as well as be a trusting companion. he has too be an animal lover and enjoy quite nights at home with just.
******************************************
Respect her? Sounds like she just wants a guy to babysit all her stupid cats while she goes out and plays with her girly friends.
Note how she ends the sentence. Sort of incomplete.
Damn shame, too. She was cute. But, I'd say this is one to avoid.
How about this one?
*********************************************
About My dream mate
here are always the things I think every girl wants: honesty, romance, and good conversation all wrapped up in an attractive guy. I'm also looking for someone who can be happy and comfortable with me at a bar with friends or at home watching a movie. The person I'm with should be my friend first and always. Good conversation and communication in a relationship is very important to me. I'm not sure that I believe in love-at-first-sight, but initial attraction has to exist.
******************************************
Don't you love the part where she says be my friend first? We do know that doesn't mean be on the "friends" ladder.
Can you sense the tone that she's writing it in? Sure, she'll take a perfect 10, but she knows that primarily she needs a guy with enough personality and confidence to accept that she has friends, isn't filled with gung ho energy where he's gotta go out every night. (Translated - sure, go out and party - just not every night. )
I'll let you know how Big Pappy does with this one. (If she gets that far.)
I couldn't say much, because I didn't have a picture up either. I'm not so photogenic, so I will usually give some chicks the benefit of the doubt.
I still prefer the casual introduction through friends, rather than online databases. However, there's something very efficient about the online approach.
I usually have a few more "tests" that a woman must pass before a meeting.
Intellect:
1. You can typically tell a womans educational level by the way she writes.
Desperation:
If a girl has filled out every form on the grid, it can suggest common courtesy or desperation. I usually just read between the lines. Take this one for example, found on DreamMates:
******************************************
About My dream mate
I am looking for a man that will respect me for who i am. who will give me my independence, as well as be a trusting companion. he has too be an animal lover and enjoy quite nights at home with just.
******************************************
Respect her? Sounds like she just wants a guy to babysit all her stupid cats while she goes out and plays with her girly friends.
Note how she ends the sentence. Sort of incomplete.
Damn shame, too. She was cute. But, I'd say this is one to avoid.
How about this one?
*********************************************
About My dream mate
here are always the things I think every girl wants: honesty, romance, and good conversation all wrapped up in an attractive guy. I'm also looking for someone who can be happy and comfortable with me at a bar with friends or at home watching a movie. The person I'm with should be my friend first and always. Good conversation and communication in a relationship is very important to me. I'm not sure that I believe in love-at-first-sight, but initial attraction has to exist.
******************************************
Don't you love the part where she says be my friend first? We do know that doesn't mean be on the "friends" ladder.
Can you sense the tone that she's writing it in? Sure, she'll take a perfect 10, but she knows that primarily she needs a guy with enough personality and confidence to accept that she has friends, isn't filled with gung ho energy where he's gotta go out every night. (Translated - sure, go out and party - just not every night. )
I'll let you know how Big Pappy does with this one. (If she gets that far.)
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
Ummmm, have you noticed that nowadays the "average" size woman is overweight? mean what else could you expect with over 60% of Americans being overweight?
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
I am right with you on all of that. I go as far to ask about dress size and or weight. Yeah, it sounds shallow but get this, if I'm willing to put all of that information WITH PICTURES in my own profile, why would it be so wrong to ask for the same information?
To tell the truth, I only gravitate toward profiles from women that readily provide this information. I've found that they are confident and proud of the work they put into being fit and sexy.
Pugsley_f5
Senior Don Juan
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AIM convos critique
Hey guys i have to convos that I would like you all to critique for me, let me know if Im doing something wrong , or too much of something not enough of another. Hey guys and also please dont screw around with these aim names, you can aim me duh, just dont fool round with the ladies.....Common courtesy
...........turbopugsleyLX: hey cute stuff
turbopugsleyLX: how u doin
ncbarbie26 is no longer idle at 5:45:25 PM.
ncbarbie26: pretty good how are you?
turbopugsleyLX: im awesome
turbopugsleyLX: hows ur day been
ncbarbie26: ok i guess
ncbarbie26: i thought i was gonna be able to skip school
ncbarbie26: but
ncbarbie26: my appt got canceled so it looks like im going
turbopugsleyLX: ah cmon dont tell me your that type of girl
ncbarbie26: what?
turbopugsleyLX: skipping school
ncbarbie26: i am not that type of girl, i had a drs appt in the morning and i wasent going to go to spanish if id already missed my morning class
ncbarbie26: and im going out of town tommarow anyways
turbopugsleyLX: tisk tisk
ncbarbie26: it would've been good to get a head start to go
turbopugsleyLX:
turbopugsleyLX: im just messin
turbopugsleyLX: I had u going there for a sec
ncbarbie26: o ok
turbopugsleyLX: where you going out of town to?
ncbarbie26: concord
ncbarbie26: north carolina*
turbopugsleyLX: what u doin down there
ncbarbie26: going to the nascar race on saturday
turbopugsleyLX: uh oh
turbopugsleyLX: *im jealous*
ncbarbie26: ive got hospitality passes for the whole day :-D
turbopugsleyLX: yeh yeh yeh
turbopugsleyLX: are you one of them ernhardt fans?
ncbarbie26: i like dale jr
turbopugsleyLX: man that just wont do!
turbopugsleyLX: who you thinks gonna win tommorow?
ncbarbie26: tommarow?
ncbarbie26: like in the busch race?
turbopugsleyLX: sunday
turbopugsleyLX: i meant
ncbarbie26: the race is saturday night
turbopugsleyLX: I feel like its saturday
ncbarbie26: and im not sure
ncbarbie26: mark martin is pretty good there
turbopugsleyLX: you know my grandfather raced nascar
turbopugsleyLX: he used to race daytona back when it was still raced on the beach
ncbarbie26: cool
ncbarbie26: i like to race on the beach on nascar thunder
ncbarbie26: haha but i suck
turbopugsleyLX: haha
ncbarbie26: i like crash into everything
turbopugsleyLX: lol
turbopugsleyLX: I like to go backwards going full speed into a head on lol
ncbarbie26: lol
ncbarbie26: im having horrible problems on my laptop
ncbarbie26: stupid computer
turbopugsleyLX: lol
turbopugsleyLX: is it the person using it or the pc?
ncbarbie26: its the pc
ncbarbie26: its popups somewhere hidden
turbopugsleyLX: ok just making sure:-D
ncbarbie26: i def know its not me
turbopugsleyLX: lol
ncbarbie26: i placed out of computers
ncbarbie26: in college or whatever
ncbarbie26: brb i gotta restart
ncbarbie26 signed off at 5:58:57 PM.
ncbarbie26 signed on at 6:04:50 PM.
ncbarbie26: well thats was quite weird
turbopugsleyLX: what was
ncbarbie26: theres something def wrong with mylaptop
ncbarbie26: its got like spam on it somewhere
turbopugsleyLX: go to cnet.com and download and spyware detector and deleter
ncbarbie26: its something called. 404
ncbarbie26: 404ads.net
turbopugsleyLX: go dl a spyware detetcor and deleter on www.cnet.com
ncbarbie26: thanks
turbopugsleyLX: what happened with those tornados last night
ncbarbie26: idk
ncbarbie26: none hit me
ncbarbie26 signed off at 6:12:22 PM.
ncbarbie26 signed on at 6:13:20 PM.
ncbarbie26: sorry
ncbarbie26: this is a real pain
turbopugsleyLX: is it a pain? I sure your prolly frustrated
turbopugsleyLX: ?
ncbarbie26 is idle at 6:27:13 PM.
turbopugsleyLX: peanut gallery went *poof*
turbopugsleyLX: man peanut gallery really went *POOF*
ncbarbie26 is no longer idle at 6:53:47 PM.
ncbarbie26: peanut gallery?
turbopugsleyLX: yeh YOU
ncbarbie26: sorry
turbopugsleyLX: you know....comments from the peanut gallery
ncbarbie26: never heard of it
turbopugsleyLX: really?
turbopugsleyLX: why you apologize?
ncbarbie26: b/c i left
ncbarbie26: my computer is really broken
turbopugsleyLX: did you say you went to school kerry?
turbopugsleyLX: Peace?
ncbarbie26: yep
ncbarbie26: last year there
ncbarbie26: thank goodness
ncbarbie26: thanks for the program
ncbarbie26: im hoping it will fix it
turbopugsleyLX: it should
turbopugsleyLX: your welcome
turbopugsleyLX: so I was thinking about your offer last night and I have made my decision
ncbarbie26: ?
turbopugsleyLX: yes I will go and grab a cup of coffee with you next week.....
ncbarbie26: haha
turbopugsleyLX: your lucky though
turbopugsleyLX: I was almost gonna say no, but the person on the right side of my shoulder told me to so I decided that yes I will
ncbarbie26: i see
turbopugsleyLX: it was a little blue birdie actually that was on my shoulder
ncbarbie26: sadly
ncbarbie26: i hate the color blue
ncbarbie26: so try again.
turbopugsleyLX: so I like it just fine
turbopugsleyLX:
turbopugsleyLX: you know my father used to have a saying on his race car
turbopugsleyLX: "Flatlineing the heartbeat call code blue"
ncbarbie26: hmm.. what?
ncbarbie26: i know what it means
ncbarbie26: but what does that have to do with racing
turbopugsleyLX: ford and chevy
turbopugsleyLX: the "heartbeat"
ncbarbie26: ahhh i get it now
ncbarbie26: im a little slow
ncbarbie26: but that is pretty clever
turbopugsleyLX: I can see that
turbopugsleyLX: Did you ride the short bus?
ncbarbie26: yeh
turbopugsleyLX: man I fell sorry for you
turbopugsleyLX: man and for me!!!:-(
ncbarbie26: i could never get a seat either
turbopugsleyLX: cause I have to go on a date with you now
ncbarbie26: the kids didnt want to share with my fatass
turbopugsleyLX: man I always jump into things before I know all the details!!
ncbarbie26: you would never know my disorder
ncbarbie26: after all the surgery
turbopugsleyLX: disorder!!!!????....Surgery!!!??
ncbarbie26: ah im just screwin with you
turbopugsleyLX: ay caramba
turbopugsleyLX: I know and I was screwing back....lol
ncbarbie26:
ncbarbie26: i forgot to buy pants for saturday
ncbarbie26: damnit
turbopugsleyLX: uh oh
turbopugsleyLX: sounds like the next episode of girls gone wild
ncbarbie26: i wanted to wear kacki pants with my new sweater i bought
ncbarbie26: but i never got around to buying some
turbopugsleyLX: looks like the nascar guys are gonna gte a show
ncbarbie26: looks like im either going shopping tommarow after class
ncbarbie26: or..
ncbarbie26: wearing jeans
turbopugsleyLX: oh....
turbopugsleyLX: I was getting ready to make plans to go down there for that one
ncbarbie26 signed off at 7:14:53 PM.
ncbarbie26 signed on at 7:19:12 PM.
ncbarbie26: yay
turbopugsleyLX: lol
ncbarbie26: fixe dit
turbopugsleyLX: fix dit eh?
ncbarbie26: what time does the mall close?
turbopugsleyLX: lol girl im in gbo I have no clue
turbopugsleyLX: I rarely go to the malls in raliegh
ncbarbie26: o
ncbarbie26: nm it closes at 9
ncbarbie26: ill neve rmake it in time
turbopugsleyLX: lol youd be running around like the rabbit on alice in wonderland
turbopugsleyLX: hey gurl so since you asked when are you gonna set a tenative date and place for coffee
ncbarbie26: i dont know
turbopugsleyLX: whats this about
turbopugsleyLX: you twist my arm for a date and then you cant tell me when and where were going?
Hey guys i have to convos that I would like you all to critique for me, let me know if Im doing something wrong , or too much of something not enough of another. Hey guys and also please dont screw around with these aim names, you can aim me duh, just dont fool round with the ladies.....Common courtesy
...........turbopugsleyLX: hey cute stuff
turbopugsleyLX: how u doin
ncbarbie26 is no longer idle at 5:45:25 PM.
ncbarbie26: pretty good how are you?
turbopugsleyLX: im awesome
turbopugsleyLX: hows ur day been
ncbarbie26: ok i guess
ncbarbie26: i thought i was gonna be able to skip school
ncbarbie26: but
ncbarbie26: my appt got canceled so it looks like im going
turbopugsleyLX: ah cmon dont tell me your that type of girl
ncbarbie26: what?
turbopugsleyLX: skipping school
ncbarbie26: i am not that type of girl, i had a drs appt in the morning and i wasent going to go to spanish if id already missed my morning class
ncbarbie26: and im going out of town tommarow anyways
turbopugsleyLX: tisk tisk
ncbarbie26: it would've been good to get a head start to go
turbopugsleyLX:
turbopugsleyLX: im just messin
turbopugsleyLX: I had u going there for a sec
ncbarbie26: o ok
turbopugsleyLX: where you going out of town to?
ncbarbie26: concord
ncbarbie26: north carolina*
turbopugsleyLX: what u doin down there
ncbarbie26: going to the nascar race on saturday
turbopugsleyLX: uh oh
turbopugsleyLX: *im jealous*
ncbarbie26: ive got hospitality passes for the whole day :-D
turbopugsleyLX: yeh yeh yeh
turbopugsleyLX: are you one of them ernhardt fans?
ncbarbie26: i like dale jr
turbopugsleyLX: man that just wont do!
turbopugsleyLX: who you thinks gonna win tommorow?
ncbarbie26: tommarow?
ncbarbie26: like in the busch race?
turbopugsleyLX: sunday
turbopugsleyLX: i meant
ncbarbie26: the race is saturday night
turbopugsleyLX: I feel like its saturday
ncbarbie26: and im not sure
ncbarbie26: mark martin is pretty good there
turbopugsleyLX: you know my grandfather raced nascar
turbopugsleyLX: he used to race daytona back when it was still raced on the beach
ncbarbie26: cool
ncbarbie26: i like to race on the beach on nascar thunder
ncbarbie26: haha but i suck
turbopugsleyLX: haha
ncbarbie26: i like crash into everything
turbopugsleyLX: lol
turbopugsleyLX: I like to go backwards going full speed into a head on lol
ncbarbie26: lol
ncbarbie26: im having horrible problems on my laptop
ncbarbie26: stupid computer
turbopugsleyLX: lol
turbopugsleyLX: is it the person using it or the pc?
ncbarbie26: its the pc
ncbarbie26: its popups somewhere hidden
turbopugsleyLX: ok just making sure:-D
ncbarbie26: i def know its not me
turbopugsleyLX: lol
ncbarbie26: i placed out of computers
ncbarbie26: in college or whatever
ncbarbie26: brb i gotta restart
ncbarbie26 signed off at 5:58:57 PM.
ncbarbie26 signed on at 6:04:50 PM.
ncbarbie26: well thats was quite weird
turbopugsleyLX: what was
ncbarbie26: theres something def wrong with mylaptop
ncbarbie26: its got like spam on it somewhere
turbopugsleyLX: go to cnet.com and download and spyware detector and deleter
ncbarbie26: its something called. 404
ncbarbie26: 404ads.net
turbopugsleyLX: go dl a spyware detetcor and deleter on www.cnet.com
ncbarbie26: thanks
turbopugsleyLX: what happened with those tornados last night
ncbarbie26: idk
ncbarbie26: none hit me
ncbarbie26 signed off at 6:12:22 PM.
ncbarbie26 signed on at 6:13:20 PM.
ncbarbie26: sorry
ncbarbie26: this is a real pain
turbopugsleyLX: is it a pain? I sure your prolly frustrated
turbopugsleyLX: ?
ncbarbie26 is idle at 6:27:13 PM.
turbopugsleyLX: peanut gallery went *poof*
turbopugsleyLX: man peanut gallery really went *POOF*
ncbarbie26 is no longer idle at 6:53:47 PM.
ncbarbie26: peanut gallery?
turbopugsleyLX: yeh YOU
ncbarbie26: sorry
turbopugsleyLX: you know....comments from the peanut gallery
ncbarbie26: never heard of it
turbopugsleyLX: really?
turbopugsleyLX: why you apologize?
ncbarbie26: b/c i left
ncbarbie26: my computer is really broken
turbopugsleyLX: did you say you went to school kerry?
turbopugsleyLX: Peace?
ncbarbie26: yep
ncbarbie26: last year there
ncbarbie26: thank goodness
ncbarbie26: thanks for the program
ncbarbie26: im hoping it will fix it
turbopugsleyLX: it should
turbopugsleyLX: your welcome
turbopugsleyLX: so I was thinking about your offer last night and I have made my decision
ncbarbie26: ?
turbopugsleyLX: yes I will go and grab a cup of coffee with you next week.....
ncbarbie26: haha
turbopugsleyLX: your lucky though
turbopugsleyLX: I was almost gonna say no, but the person on the right side of my shoulder told me to so I decided that yes I will
ncbarbie26: i see
turbopugsleyLX: it was a little blue birdie actually that was on my shoulder
ncbarbie26: sadly
ncbarbie26: i hate the color blue
ncbarbie26: so try again.
turbopugsleyLX: so I like it just fine
turbopugsleyLX:
turbopugsleyLX: you know my father used to have a saying on his race car
turbopugsleyLX: "Flatlineing the heartbeat call code blue"
ncbarbie26: hmm.. what?
ncbarbie26: i know what it means
ncbarbie26: but what does that have to do with racing
turbopugsleyLX: ford and chevy
turbopugsleyLX: the "heartbeat"
ncbarbie26: ahhh i get it now
ncbarbie26: im a little slow
ncbarbie26: but that is pretty clever
turbopugsleyLX: I can see that
turbopugsleyLX: Did you ride the short bus?
ncbarbie26: yeh
turbopugsleyLX: man I fell sorry for you
turbopugsleyLX: man and for me!!!:-(
ncbarbie26: i could never get a seat either
turbopugsleyLX: cause I have to go on a date with you now
ncbarbie26: the kids didnt want to share with my fatass
turbopugsleyLX: man I always jump into things before I know all the details!!
ncbarbie26: you would never know my disorder
ncbarbie26: after all the surgery
turbopugsleyLX: disorder!!!!????....Surgery!!!??
ncbarbie26: ah im just screwin with you
turbopugsleyLX: ay caramba
turbopugsleyLX: I know and I was screwing back....lol
ncbarbie26:
ncbarbie26: i forgot to buy pants for saturday
ncbarbie26: damnit
turbopugsleyLX: uh oh
turbopugsleyLX: sounds like the next episode of girls gone wild
ncbarbie26: i wanted to wear kacki pants with my new sweater i bought
ncbarbie26: but i never got around to buying some
turbopugsleyLX: looks like the nascar guys are gonna gte a show
ncbarbie26: looks like im either going shopping tommarow after class
ncbarbie26: or..
ncbarbie26: wearing jeans
turbopugsleyLX: oh....
turbopugsleyLX: I was getting ready to make plans to go down there for that one
ncbarbie26 signed off at 7:14:53 PM.
ncbarbie26 signed on at 7:19:12 PM.
ncbarbie26: yay
turbopugsleyLX: lol
ncbarbie26: fixe dit
turbopugsleyLX: fix dit eh?
ncbarbie26: what time does the mall close?
turbopugsleyLX: lol girl im in gbo I have no clue
turbopugsleyLX: I rarely go to the malls in raliegh
ncbarbie26: o
ncbarbie26: nm it closes at 9
ncbarbie26: ill neve rmake it in time
turbopugsleyLX: lol youd be running around like the rabbit on alice in wonderland
turbopugsleyLX: hey gurl so since you asked when are you gonna set a tenative date and place for coffee
ncbarbie26: i dont know
turbopugsleyLX: whats this about
turbopugsleyLX: you twist my arm for a date and then you cant tell me when and where were going?
Pugsley_f5
Senior Don Juan
- Joined
- Oct 4, 2004
- Messages
- 373
- Reaction score
- 2
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turbopugsleyLX: indecisive tonight?
Auto response from Erin20Lee: Shower Time
turbopugsleyLX: lol away...return...away...return....away... return
turbopugsleyLX: btw my shoe size is......
Erin20Lee returned at 6:48:01 PM.
Erin20Lee: sorry
Erin20Lee: I really need to jump in the shower and people keep IMing me
turbopugsleyLX: lol haha
Erin20Lee: okay... SHOWER TIME FOR REAL, talk to me later???
turbopugsleyLX: maybe
Erin20Lee: GRRRRRRR!
Erin20Lee: fine
Erin20Lee: bye
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turbopugsleyLX: have a fun shower think about my shoe size....lol
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turbopugsleyLX: have a fun shower think about my shoe size....lol
Erin20Lee returned at 7:08:38 PM.
Erin20Lee: alright you, BRING IT
Erin20Lee: how are you
Erin20Lee: what's your shoe size
Erin20Lee: I want to see a picture
turbopugsleyLX: wouldnt you like to know
Erin20Lee: I'd guess an 11
turbopugsleyLX: you couldnt handle anything even if it was a 2 why does it matter
turbopugsleyLX: lol
turbopugsleyLX: j/k
Erin20Lee: yeah... you're not one of my favorite people
turbopugsleyLX: ah cmon, im just playing with you
turbopugsleyLX: take it with a grain of salt
Erin20Lee: I am too
Erin20Lee: geez
turbopugsleyLX: I wouldnt tease you if I wasn't incredibly turned one by that gator on your lap
Erin20Lee: it was the coolest thing EVER
Erin20Lee: it was amazing
Erin20Lee: he was pissed
Erin20Lee: but I thought it was cool
turbopugsleyLX: id be pissed to if I was sitting on your lap
Erin20Lee: I know
Erin20Lee: he was heavy as hell though
Erin20Lee: like 100lbs
turbopugsleyLX: and if my mouth was taped shut
Erin20Lee: I'd enjoy it more if your mouth was taped
turbopugsleyLX: *I still have my fingers though*:-X
Erin20Lee: grrrrrr
turbopugsleyLX: lol
turbopugsleyLX: you find bam bam yet?
Erin20Lee: maybe
Erin20Lee: but he doesn't want me
Erin20Lee: so where a pic
Erin20Lee: dude I have no idea who you are
Erin20Lee: whats you name on match.com
turbopugsleyLX: I gave you my name
turbopugsleyLX: uncgstud
turbopugsleyLX: he hit you over the head with his club and drag you back to his cave?
Erin20Lee: your a stud
Erin20Lee: nope
turbopugsleyLX: 100% studmuffin!!!!
Erin20Lee: ahhh
Erin20Lee: egotistical too!
turbopugsleyLX: nah im not
turbopugsleyLX: I just like having fun
Erin20Lee: so why aren't you out having it
turbopugsleyLX: because you were on here talking my ear off and I didnt want to be rude
Erin20Lee: I know, I'm so demanding
turbopugsleyLX: yes thats the word i was looking for
Erin20Lee: uh huh
turbopugsleyLX: so In all seriousness, what made you want to put your profile on there
Erin20Lee: no clue
Erin20Lee: tired of *******s
Erin20Lee: you want a fullfigured girl? I'm not really that...
turbopugsleyLX: No actually I don't
turbopugsleyLX: what made u think that
Erin20Lee: it said it on your profile
Erin20Lee: and curvy
turbopugsleyLX: it has more cheched than that though
Erin20Lee: yeah...
turbopugsleyLX: I actually prefer more slender types
Erin20Lee: oh okay
turbopugsleyLX: 5'2-5'8 maybe 140 or 150 pds
Erin20Lee: well I'm 5'3 so I fall int here I guess
turbopugsleyLX: I wasnt sure when looked at your pics if you qaulified or not....
Erin20Lee: because...
turbopugsleyLX: idk
turbopugsleyLX: a geuss I just had my standards lower
turbopugsleyLX:
Erin20Lee: uh huh
Erin20Lee: I'm not 140 though
Erin20Lee: sorry
turbopugsleyLX: well what are u
Erin20Lee: 120ish
turbopugsleyLX: thats good
turbopugsleyLX: your 2 out of 5
Erin20Lee: what
turbopugsleyLX: you fit 2 out of the 5 standards I have for women
Erin20Lee: and I fail 3?
turbopugsleyLX: no I havent found those out yet
Erin20Lee: bring it
turbopugsleyLX: I have to go anyways
turbopugsleyLX: Im at work wayyy late
turbopugsleyLX: you were talking my dang ear off
Erin20Lee: bye!
turbopugsleyLX: j/k
turbopugsleyLX: Ill ttyl maybe if your a nice girl Ill tell them to you tommorow and we can see if you fit the other two
turbopugsleyLX: three I mean
turbopugsleyLX: bye pebbles
Erin20Lee: bye
turbopugsleyLX: lol *smile*
turbopugsleyLX: :-D
turbopugsleyLX: Im can't leave till you smile........
Erin20Lee: go away!!!
turbopugsleyLX: hahaha
turbopugsleyLX: oh man, strike one
AND
turbopugsleyLX: indecisive tonight?
Auto response from Erin20Lee: Shower Time
turbopugsleyLX: lol away...return...away...return....away... return
turbopugsleyLX: btw my shoe size is......
Erin20Lee returned at 6:48:01 PM.
Erin20Lee: sorry
Erin20Lee: I really need to jump in the shower and people keep IMing me
turbopugsleyLX: lol haha
Erin20Lee: okay... SHOWER TIME FOR REAL, talk to me later???
turbopugsleyLX: maybe
Erin20Lee: GRRRRRRR!
Erin20Lee: fine
Erin20Lee: bye
Erin20Lee is away at 6:48:50 PM.
Erin20Lee returned at 6:48:50 PM.
Erin20Lee signed off at 6:48:51 PM.
turbopugsleyLX: have a fun shower think about my shoe size....lol
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Erin20Lee is away at 6:50:38 PM.
turbopugsleyLX: have a fun shower think about my shoe size....lol
Erin20Lee returned at 7:08:38 PM.
Erin20Lee: alright you, BRING IT
Erin20Lee: how are you
Erin20Lee: what's your shoe size
Erin20Lee: I want to see a picture
turbopugsleyLX: wouldnt you like to know
Erin20Lee: I'd guess an 11
turbopugsleyLX: you couldnt handle anything even if it was a 2 why does it matter
turbopugsleyLX: lol
turbopugsleyLX: j/k
Erin20Lee: yeah... you're not one of my favorite people
turbopugsleyLX: ah cmon, im just playing with you
turbopugsleyLX: take it with a grain of salt
Erin20Lee: I am too
Erin20Lee: geez
turbopugsleyLX: I wouldnt tease you if I wasn't incredibly turned one by that gator on your lap
Erin20Lee: it was the coolest thing EVER
Erin20Lee: it was amazing
Erin20Lee: he was pissed
Erin20Lee: but I thought it was cool
turbopugsleyLX: id be pissed to if I was sitting on your lap
Erin20Lee: I know
Erin20Lee: he was heavy as hell though
Erin20Lee: like 100lbs
turbopugsleyLX: and if my mouth was taped shut
Erin20Lee: I'd enjoy it more if your mouth was taped
turbopugsleyLX: *I still have my fingers though*:-X
Erin20Lee: grrrrrr
turbopugsleyLX: lol
turbopugsleyLX: you find bam bam yet?
Erin20Lee: maybe
Erin20Lee: but he doesn't want me
Erin20Lee: so where a pic
Erin20Lee: dude I have no idea who you are
Erin20Lee: whats you name on match.com
turbopugsleyLX: I gave you my name
turbopugsleyLX: uncgstud
turbopugsleyLX: he hit you over the head with his club and drag you back to his cave?
Erin20Lee: your a stud
Erin20Lee: nope
turbopugsleyLX: 100% studmuffin!!!!
Erin20Lee: ahhh
Erin20Lee: egotistical too!
turbopugsleyLX: nah im not
turbopugsleyLX: I just like having fun
Erin20Lee: so why aren't you out having it
turbopugsleyLX: because you were on here talking my ear off and I didnt want to be rude
Erin20Lee: I know, I'm so demanding
turbopugsleyLX: yes thats the word i was looking for
Erin20Lee: uh huh
turbopugsleyLX: so In all seriousness, what made you want to put your profile on there
Erin20Lee: no clue
Erin20Lee: tired of *******s
Erin20Lee: you want a fullfigured girl? I'm not really that...
turbopugsleyLX: No actually I don't
turbopugsleyLX: what made u think that
Erin20Lee: it said it on your profile
Erin20Lee: and curvy
turbopugsleyLX: it has more cheched than that though
Erin20Lee: yeah...
turbopugsleyLX: I actually prefer more slender types
Erin20Lee: oh okay
turbopugsleyLX: 5'2-5'8 maybe 140 or 150 pds
Erin20Lee: well I'm 5'3 so I fall int here I guess
turbopugsleyLX: I wasnt sure when looked at your pics if you qaulified or not....
Erin20Lee: because...
turbopugsleyLX: idk
turbopugsleyLX: a geuss I just had my standards lower
turbopugsleyLX:
Erin20Lee: uh huh
Erin20Lee: I'm not 140 though
Erin20Lee: sorry
turbopugsleyLX: well what are u
Erin20Lee: 120ish
turbopugsleyLX: thats good
turbopugsleyLX: your 2 out of 5
Erin20Lee: what
turbopugsleyLX: you fit 2 out of the 5 standards I have for women
Erin20Lee: and I fail 3?
turbopugsleyLX: no I havent found those out yet
Erin20Lee: bring it
turbopugsleyLX: I have to go anyways
turbopugsleyLX: Im at work wayyy late
turbopugsleyLX: you were talking my dang ear off
Erin20Lee: bye!
turbopugsleyLX: j/k
turbopugsleyLX: Ill ttyl maybe if your a nice girl Ill tell them to you tommorow and we can see if you fit the other two
turbopugsleyLX: three I mean
turbopugsleyLX: bye pebbles
Erin20Lee: bye
turbopugsleyLX: lol *smile*
turbopugsleyLX: :-D
turbopugsleyLX: Im can't leave till you smile........
Erin20Lee: go away!!!
turbopugsleyLX: hahaha
turbopugsleyLX: oh man, strike one
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
Re: AIM convos critique
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I got the feeling she was chatting with you because she had nothing better to do at that particular moment (no offense). There wasn't any personal stuff what so ever. I'm not talking about sex either, it was basically the type of chatting that you would do in an elevator just because you only about 30 seconds before your floor. The bad thing with this chat is that it probably took about 30 or so elevator trips to complete...
I hate to say this, but this is why it seems to take on-line women to go out with a guy, all they can take is banter like this in 10 or 15 minute chunks. Why would they want to put up with this for an entire evening? My guess is that when you go out you will be one of her many 'nice guy' friends.
Work on becoming charismatic and engaging. Make her want to seek you out to talk to you and go out. She can chit chat with any AFC on the street, you need to be different. You need to be interesting enough for her to prefer to talk or be with you instead of watching 'Sex in the City' reruns.
Seriously, I was bored with the conversation. It wasn't going anywhere. There was a lot of chit chat going on but nothing of substance. Oh yeah, she'll owe you big time for helping fix her computer
. I got the feeling she was chatting with you because she had nothing better to do at that particular moment (no offense). There wasn't any personal stuff what so ever. I'm not talking about sex either, it was basically the type of chatting that you would do in an elevator just because you only about 30 seconds before your floor. The bad thing with this chat is that it probably took about 30 or so elevator trips to complete...
I hate to say this, but this is why it seems to take on-line women to go out with a guy, all they can take is banter like this in 10 or 15 minute chunks. Why would they want to put up with this for an entire evening? My guess is that when you go out you will be one of her many 'nice guy' friends.
Work on becoming charismatic and engaging. Make her want to seek you out to talk to you and go out. She can chit chat with any AFC on the street, you need to be different. You need to be interesting enough for her to prefer to talk or be with you instead of watching 'Sex in the City' reruns.
Pugsley_f5
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I don't know if it just me, but sometimes im feeling like im pulling teeth to keep the convo going and the only way is to keep asking open ended questions but, I keep getting one word answers......
Could you please be able to give me some concrete example of what I said and how I could say it differently,
how do you get and keep an interesting convo going on with a girl, and get her talking and keep her talking?
PLEASE HELP!
Could you please be able to give me some concrete example of what I said and how I could say it differently,
how do you get and keep an interesting convo going on with a girl, and get her talking and keep her talking?
PLEASE HELP!
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
Conversations are a give and take process. If it feels like pulling teeth it can be one of two things; the other person is introverted or boring OR YOU are introverted or boring (don't get pissed off unless you can't do anything about it).
First and foremost, IMs plain suck unless you already have rapport with the woman. You will either get that rapport withing the first couple of minutes or it ain't happening. Rapport is like a good tennis match, fast, exciting and exhilarating. Are IMs any of those things?
This is why many guys go for the telephone number. It's not nearly as slow but it still sucks. In both, a person can be either lazy and not participate in the conversation or they can be easily distracted if they feel bored.
You did the best that you could with the subject matter you chose to talk about. It's not how you said it, it's what you said that left a lot to be desired. Open ended questions work best when the subject matter is something of interest. It seems that all you talked about was things you were interested in.
If you are interested in a woman, skip the chit chat. Talk about things that will make her think. Talk about things that she would want to talk about. What type of things? ASK HER!!!!! No tricks are necessary, just make an effort other than just asking open ended questions. Well, there's one trick, find a woman that enjoys talking a lot. Now how difficult is that????
Pugsley_f5
Senior Don Juan
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by saying ask her, is what your saying is to ask her what her hobbies, dreams, goals etc are, what shes looking for in man....that type of stuff?
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
Keep it light, don't talk about relationship type things until after you have a comfortable rapport with her. Normally start with something like what they did the PRIOR weekend, it won't become too defensive in thinking that you are checking whether she is free THIS weekend.
From there you can find out about hobbies, goals and things she's passionate about. She gives a little, you give a little. Read this article, it'll clue you in on a lot of don'ts.
What Women HATE Most About Single Guys
MRomeo99
Don Juan
Keep in mind as well that more than half of the women that you talk to are going to be a complete waste of time. About 50% of the women I'll engage in IM are a complete waste. But, the other half can be incredibly fun. I will usually get in IM conversations with from 3-6 women, and within 1/2 an hour I have it down to the 2 most fun ones I can find to talk to. Some of them try really hard, but if you don't have wit, and aren't fun for me to talk to as well, NEXT.
Remember it's all about the numbers game, and in the end it has to be fun for you too. If I'm not intrigued and having fun, then I'd rather be looking for someone else. There are too many out there.
Oh and btw- you can just do a seach and replace on IM's to replace your name and the young ladies name. Which is what I did in my convo.
HTH,
M
Remember it's all about the numbers game, and in the end it has to be fun for you too. If I'm not intrigued and having fun, then I'd rather be looking for someone else. There are too many out there.
Oh and btw- you can just do a seach and replace on IM's to replace your name and the young ladies name. Which is what I did in my convo.
HTH,
M
PuertoRican_Lover
Banned
This is a dude!!!
Great ad - meaningful!
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I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
Metaphysikal_Lover
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Re: Re: Internet Dating 101
LOL, no it's not a dude, I've seen the other photos and body shots and her daughter. And we have been talking in person and on the phone.
Originally posted by PuertoRican_Lover
This is a dude!!!
Great ad - meaningful!
LOL, no it's not a dude, I've seen the other photos and body shots and her daughter. And we have been talking in person and on the phone.
Not sure if I posted this, but my new rule is NEVER EVER EVER meet a girl without a pic.
Now I did this 3 times. One time the girl was HOT, i just got lucky. The other two times were bad.
The worst part is with one of the bad ones I still played around with her.
She has called me nonstop for about 10 days, and I thought she stopped but then called me again last Friday and Saturday.
I did talk to her on the phone. She is needy as hell.
Don't repeat my mistake fellas.
I am just glad she doesn't know where I live.
Now I did this 3 times. One time the girl was HOT, i just got lucky. The other two times were bad.
The worst part is with one of the bad ones I still played around with her.
She has called me nonstop for about 10 days, and I thought she stopped but then called me again last Friday and Saturday.
I did talk to her on the phone. She is needy as hell.
Don't repeat my mistake fellas.
I am just glad she doesn't know where I live.
PuertoRican_Lover
Banned
Player Supreme went from a 'Player' to a 'Lover' (a Metaphysical Lover at that) - welcome aboard to the 'Love' train!!
I think a 'Lover' is best suited for older men - we are just as athletes are, there is a time when you must leave the game (quit playing) and start a new path towards growth in other realms of your life!
In your younger years you have the time to 'Play' with hors - thus the 'Player' label. In your later years it is time to 'Love' life - thus the 'Lover' label1
Our younger years are immersed in our physical earthly pursuits, it is in our later years where we value things outside the physical realm most - therefore the "Metaphysical Lover" label is aptly applied!!!
I think a 'Lover' is best suited for older men - we are just as athletes are, there is a time when you must leave the game (quit playing) and start a new path towards growth in other realms of your life!
In your younger years you have the time to 'Play' with hors - thus the 'Player' label. In your later years it is time to 'Love' life - thus the 'Lover' label1
Our younger years are immersed in our physical earthly pursuits, it is in our later years where we value things outside the physical realm most - therefore the "Metaphysical Lover" label is aptly applied!!!
Metaphysikal_Lover
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Amen brotha. "When I was a child I played as a child but when I became a man I put away my childish ways"--da bibleOriginally posted by PuertoRican_Lover
Player Supreme went from a 'Player' to a 'Lover' (a Metaphysical Lover at that) - welcome aboard to the 'Love' train!!
I think a 'Lover' is best suited for older men - we are just as athletes are, there is a time when you must leave the game (quit playing) and start a new path towards growth in other realms of your life!
In your younger years you have the time to 'Play' with hors - thus the 'Player' label. In your later years it is time to 'Love' life - thus the 'Lover' label!!!
PuertoRican_Lover
Banned
I added the following to my post (statement) above...
Our younger years are immersed in our physical earthly pursuits, it is in our later years where we value things outside the physical realm most - therefore the "Metaphysical Lover" label is aptly applied!!!
Our younger years are immersed in our physical earthly pursuits, it is in our later years where we value things outside the physical realm most - therefore the "Metaphysical Lover" label is aptly applied!!!
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.