"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Two weeks ago, I took a girl out to lunch. We had a good time. Three days later, I asked her out to dinner/movie for this past Sunday night. Dinner went awesome (at least I thought). I don't feel I'm projecting how I felt about it on her, either. She laughed a good bit, and did at least 60% of the talking. And we have a LOT in common.

In the car on the way to drop her off, she mentioned she'd be going out of town with girlfriends this weekend. Not a big deal, but it did put me in a weird position time-wise if I wanted to see her again relatively-soon. Tuesday was of course Valentine's, so I didn't contact her until Wednesday morning. I texted her that I'd like to see her before going out of town, and suggested doing dinner Thursday night (I know, short notice).

I didn't get a reply until a LOT later, that evening. Saying that she was sorry for not getting back w/me sooner bc she had been out of town all day. She also said she already had plans for Thur night, but was "not sure about the weekend now". I was totally confused. Was this a blowoff? If so, why now imply you might be available for the weekend? I kept my reply simple, "No problem. If you're here this weekend, we could get together, if not, it's cool."

Haven't heard back since. She might be out of town. I have not clue. I need some impartial input into if this might be an infamous "Test" we all read about, or if it sounds more like I'm toast. :confused:

Thanks in advance.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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I'm sorry, but what's the problem here? She replied she has plans Thursday night, but she's making up for that by saying she might be available for the weekend. Where's the blowoff here? Maybe I didn't understand.

In any case, it doesn't matter. You shouldn't be worrying about a girl's IL, since if you do there's a good chance you will do something needy and that will only lower it. And anyways, there's barely anything you can do to raise it (except look as un-needy as possible).

So stop worrying. This is why plates are useful.
 

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You have failed to mention what you have done with her. Kiss, make out, fool around with clothes on, fool around with clothes off, oral, sex? If you have done nothing on either date she may think you are a typical "nice guy" and potentially a "friend"...
 

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sighsigh said:
I'm sorry, but what's the problem here? She replied she has plans Thursday night, but she's making up for that by saying she might be available for the weekend. Where's the blowoff here? Maybe I didn't understand.

In any case, it doesn't matter. You shouldn't be worrying about a girl's IL, since if you do there's a good chance you will do something needy and that will only lower it. And anyways, there's barely anything you can do to raise it (except look as un-needy as possible).

So stop worrying. This is why plates are useful.
That's exactly what I thought. Just basically looking for some un-biased opinion. I've got a girl who's a friend that thought it was bad that she took so long to text me back, and then not have her not let me know for sure if she was leaving town or not.

And to answer the question of if we'd done anything physical yet, I didn't try to kiss her after the first date.

Thanks guys.
 

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2 dates and no move may be interpreted as a lack of confidence on your part by her...see what happens I guess...

My motto: "A woman is more likely to forgive you for acting like a man than for acting like a bit*h"
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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marmel75 said:
2 dates and no move may be interpreted as a lack of confidence on your part by her...see what happens I guess...

My motto: "A woman is more likely to forgive you for acting like a man than for acting like a bit*h"

I hear ya on that. The first "date" was just a quick lunch on a work day, so I didn't really count it.

Probably going to go NC and see if she comes after me, whether she went out of town or not. Thoughts?

And BTW love the motto...
 
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