No.Danny
Master Don Juan
How often do you guys initiate. How often do you wait for the girl to initiate. Does it really matter who text last?
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Initiating through text
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Rainman4707
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Well I don't really like texting as it's to time consuming & apparently it's not good to text to much. I suppose the more you text, the more chance you could slip up. Although I can kind of see womens point of view that they can get to know someone a little more if he texts her.
I keep texting limited. I'll get her number, arrange date as soon as I can..if a few days go by then I'll text her asking "whats up" & tell her a short funny story...I do this so she dose'nt forget me. If she initates text...I like to keep it short as I can unless I have'nt texted her in a few days (in that case i'll use same method "whats up" then tell her something funny that has happened to me recently) if I've been seeing her regular I don't mind going a week without any contact.
Put it this way. I wouldn't like to be the one who has to initiate most of the time as it gives her higher value
I keep texting limited. I'll get her number, arrange date as soon as I can..if a few days go by then I'll text her asking "whats up" & tell her a short funny story...I do this so she dose'nt forget me. If she initates text...I like to keep it short as I can unless I have'nt texted her in a few days (in that case i'll use same method "whats up" then tell her something funny that has happened to me recently) if I've been seeing her regular I don't mind going a week without any contact.
Put it this way. I wouldn't like to be the one who has to initiate most of the time as it gives her higher value
I see it as the man's duty to initiate first. A lot of guys will say if she's interested, she will initiate first, and make plans, etc, but I've never really liked inaction in this case. There's some truth to "if she's interested, she will initiate" though. But you shouldn't wait for it. If she likes you, she will invite you out to do things sometimes, but so many girls expect guys to be the ones to make plans, so they just wait on us to do it.
As for who texts last, I really don't think it matters.
As for who texts last, I really don't think it matters.
Yeah, stop doing that. Text her to set up plans. A conversation over text every once in a while isn't the worst possible thing you could do, although it's not recommended. If she had fun on your date, she won't forget you. Texting her just so she doesn't is a waste of time. This, in itself, is like placing women on a pedestal. You put way too much value on her, if you're afraid of her forgetting you. She "forgets" you, you forget her number. Plain and simple.Rainman4707 said: