"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Initiate interest, get the #, go on date...but they run away?

Sp1kez

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Hey guys, I'm having a problem with keeping girls around. I can get their attention, get the # and get a date or two but then they run away. I'm starting to see a pattern here lately, here is some background info on my situation.

I'm an immigrant who has been waiting in line for permanent residency for about 8 years now, what this means is that I cannot legally work in the US and that I can't attend University unless I have $250K in the bank (which I don't). Ever since high school I've had to work under the table doing random jobs here and there and usually had no trouble keeping the girls, however now I'm 22 and because of my situation (can't work legally) I don't make much money and have to live with my parents, I also didn't get to go to university because of the same issue, I am working on an associates degree in a community college but because of my status I can't get help paying for my classes, so I take 1 or 2 a semmester out of my own poocket.

Anyway here is the problem, like I said I'm 22 now, and over 90% of the girls I meet have by now earned a bachelors degree and have started their careers, have their own places,etc. It seems that I'm losing them because they look down on me probably as a "loser" becaause I don't have a steady job, make much money and live with my parents. They are attracted and engaged for the first date or two then they run away when they find out about my situation(why does this guy not have a real job? Eww he still lives @ home w. The rents...etc) this wasn't an issue when I was 18, but it has really started to be come a problem now.

Am I royally ****ed until my legal situation is resolved? Or are these girls being goldigging ****s?

I'm an attractive guy, in shape, have awesome hobbies but it seems they look over al that and just measure my worth by my wallet/living situation.

Discuss...


PS:hoping my application for residency goes thru this year
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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WhtRbt

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Why do you think your situation is what's causing girls to run away? If the girl was into you, she'd let you crash at her place so you wouldn't have to stay with your parents all the time.

Hot chicks go with loser drug dealers and complete idiots in way worse situations than you. Something else is wrong.
 

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Perhaps you are putting forward too much information. i.e yout citizenship status and living with your parents.. its really none of there business. Females are also attracted to mysterious people so perhaps you shouldn't share these things.

here is an equation i worked out..
if a average looking guy with the worst game talks to 100 girls hes bound to get 10 numbers even a guy who doesnt know what hes doing. So i dont think its inconcievable to attempt 10 girls a day. thats 2 numbers a day..14 a week and 56 a month. out of the 56 you call you should get 5 dates. After you weed through the fake numbers/girls with low interest.so id say that your overeacting and we all get similar results. Every girl whos number you et isnt going to like you or even remember you..
just keep sarging and youll get the results
and dont volunteer so much unneccissary information..
hope i helped
-chris
 

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Umm dude, I know lots of ppl that live with their parents at 22 and work **** jobs so that's not an excuse.
 

Sp1kez

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I'm just saying....usually the ones that hang around longer are the non-university ones...oh and I don't out and tell them my situation, which is probably why they wonder why I don't gget a better job...they prob think I'm lazy and comforming
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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WhtRbt

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How do they know that you don't have a job? If they ask, tell them you're between careers and change the subject lol. Or make up a rediculous answer and change the subject. Dont' tell them you're a lazy bum with no job and u live with your parents. Why are you talking about that stuff anyway?
 

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Look at how you're framing your situation. If you think your situation sucks, people will align themselves with your frame (and that includes everyone, not just girls). So when you talk about jumping through hoops and subcommunicate that you think you're a loser, the girl will pick up on it and fee likel you're a loser too. On that note, she doesnt care so much about your situation as she does about how you're affected by it.

Notice how you spent a whole paragraph talking about why your situation is crappy and trying to make an excuse out of so you could act like a victim. Instead you could've been, yeah Im an immigrant and Im busting my ass twice as hard to get to where I wanna be but when I get there it's gonna be so awesome. I've already done this this and this and I can't wait til this sht's taken care of, etc
 

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ready123 said:
Look at how you're framing your situation. If you think your situation sucks, people will align themselves with your frame (and that includes everyone, not just girls). So when you talk about jumping through hoops and subcommunicate that you think you're a loser, the girl will pick up on it and fee likel you're a loser too. On that note, she doesnt care so much about your situation as she does about how you're affected by it.

Notice how you spent a whole paragraph talking about why your situation is crappy and trying to make an excuse out of so you could act like a victim. Instead you could've been, yeah Im an immigrant and Im busting my ass twice as hard to get to where I wanna be but when I get there it's gonna be so awesome. I've already done this this and this and I can't wait til this sht's taken care of, etc
Hi Motherf***in' Five!

Stop that pessimistic sh*t Do it now!
 
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