"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Initially high IL, then flakey, then high IL?

alpha_ash

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I dated a girl few months ago. She had high IL initially, then became flakey, definitely because my princess was in another castle, I stopped contacting her. Never expected to see her again. Then all of a sudden over the past 4 weeks, she has asked me out four times. The first three times, I made excuses and flaked LOL! Then the fourth time she contacted me Friday afternoon instead of earlier in the week.

I gave in and we went out, had an awesome night. She kept saying how much fun she had. I told her this is what she missed out on. Along the way, this one drunk dude was like, "you two look cute." I said, "no way she can't have me. I'm too good, she will have to work for me." Not those exact quotes but obviously flirting. We were out until 5 am.


Saturday she only sent me two texts. Sunday, nothing. I am surprised she hasn't attempted to contact me more after that Friday night. Should I initiate contact during the week to setup a meet for next sometime next weekend?

What type of a girl will step on her ego four times consecutively when she could just go out and get free ****? Then again step on her ego a few more times during the night to say "I had so much fun." "I had a great time tonight." while my response was "I know" or "I'm glad you had fun." She made me say "I had a great time too" at the end of the night by telling me "this is how you respond so I said it awkwardly as if I didn't mean it haha
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Kbomb

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Uh, you didn't bang her? If not then that's the problem.
 

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alpha_ash said:
I dated a girl few months ago. She had high IL initially, then became flakey, definitely because my princess was in another castle, I stopped contacting her. Never expected to see her again. Then all of a sudden over the past 4 weeks, she has asked me out four times. The first three times, I made excuses and flaked LOL! Then the fourth time she contacted me Friday afternoon instead of earlier in the week.

I gave in and we went out, had an awesome night. She kept saying how much fun she had. I told her this is what she missed out on. Along the way, this one drunk dude was like, "you two look cute." I said, "no way she can't have me. I'm too good, she will have to work for me." Not those exact quotes but obviously flirting. We were out until 5 am.


Saturday she only sent me two texts. Sunday, nothing. I am surprised she hasn't attempted to contact me more after that Friday night. Should I initiate contact during the week to setup a meet for next sometime next weekend?

What type of a girl will step on her ego four times consecutively when she could just go out and get free ****? Then again step on her ego a few more times during the night to say "I had so much fun." "I had a great time tonight." while my response was "I know" or "I'm glad you had fun." She made me say "I had a great time too" at the end of the night by telling me "this is how you respond so I said it awkwardly as if I didn't mean it haha
You should've been out till 2 then tapping it till 5. Seriously!

She probably had another guy in the time you werent talking and he's "fvcked and chucked".

Now she's back on your scene after making a bad decision. (you could've been that bad decision!)

Still. Have fun, dont catch oneitis. Call her for a date whenever you want to - there are no rules, just guidelines. (Antidumps machine has the guidelines)
 

Plutoman

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I second Kbomb/Purefilth.. did you even make out with her? Kiss her? I see no mention of that.
 

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Judge nismo took this girl to chambers. We banged while she's been flakey on you.

Had you kissed her, you wouldn't be in this friendzone right now would you? Now you know your problem. A woman's IOI's are null unless she's been sexual with you. Didn't happen here.

Case closed.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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alpha_ash

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nismo-4 said:
Judge nismo took this girl to chambers. We banged while she's been flakey on you.

Had you kissed her, you wouldn't be in this friendzone right now would you? Now you know your problem. A woman's IOI's are null unless she's been sexual with you. Didn't happen here.

Case closed.
You guys are all right. It was obviously my princess was in someone else's castle. The first time around our dates were very professional and absolutely no touching. I wanted to take it slow that time.

On Friday night, we were both being somewhat sexual. Holding hands, grinding on the dance floor, touching and feeling each other closely, etc. very touchy in general. I know I could have banged her but after she flaked on me, I sort of lost interest and was more interested in one of her friends that I want her to introduce me to.

No kiss. I don't want to kiss a girl who isn't going to earn it! Grind hard, and show me you want me ;) then you get something more. That's how I do things, y'know, I'm the prize she has to work hard to achieve!
 
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