"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Initially high IL, then flakey, then high IL?

alpha_ash

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I dated a girl few months ago. She had high IL initially, then became flakey, definitely because my princess was in another castle, I stopped contacting her. Never expected to see her again. Then all of a sudden over the past 4 weeks, she has asked me out four times. The first three times, I made excuses and flaked LOL! Then the fourth time she contacted me Friday afternoon instead of earlier in the week.

I gave in and we went out, had an awesome night. She kept saying how much fun she had. I told her this is what she missed out on. Along the way, this one drunk dude was like, "you two look cute." I said, "no way she can't have me. I'm too good, she will have to work for me." Not those exact quotes but obviously flirting. We were out until 5 am.


Saturday she only sent me two texts. Sunday, nothing. I am surprised she hasn't attempted to contact me more after that Friday night. Should I initiate contact during the week to setup a meet for next sometime next weekend?

What type of a girl will step on her ego four times consecutively when she could just go out and get free ****? Then again step on her ego a few more times during the night to say "I had so much fun." "I had a great time tonight." while my response was "I know" or "I'm glad you had fun." She made me say "I had a great time too" at the end of the night by telling me "this is how you respond so I said it awkwardly as if I didn't mean it haha
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Kbomb

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Uh, you didn't bang her? If not then that's the problem.
 

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alpha_ash said:
I dated a girl few months ago. She had high IL initially, then became flakey, definitely because my princess was in another castle, I stopped contacting her. Never expected to see her again. Then all of a sudden over the past 4 weeks, she has asked me out four times. The first three times, I made excuses and flaked LOL! Then the fourth time she contacted me Friday afternoon instead of earlier in the week.

I gave in and we went out, had an awesome night. She kept saying how much fun she had. I told her this is what she missed out on. Along the way, this one drunk dude was like, "you two look cute." I said, "no way she can't have me. I'm too good, she will have to work for me." Not those exact quotes but obviously flirting. We were out until 5 am.


Saturday she only sent me two texts. Sunday, nothing. I am surprised she hasn't attempted to contact me more after that Friday night. Should I initiate contact during the week to setup a meet for next sometime next weekend?

What type of a girl will step on her ego four times consecutively when she could just go out and get free ****? Then again step on her ego a few more times during the night to say "I had so much fun." "I had a great time tonight." while my response was "I know" or "I'm glad you had fun." She made me say "I had a great time too" at the end of the night by telling me "this is how you respond so I said it awkwardly as if I didn't mean it haha
You should've been out till 2 then tapping it till 5. Seriously!

She probably had another guy in the time you werent talking and he's "fvcked and chucked".

Now she's back on your scene after making a bad decision. (you could've been that bad decision!)

Still. Have fun, dont catch oneitis. Call her for a date whenever you want to - there are no rules, just guidelines. (Antidumps machine has the guidelines)
 

Plutoman

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I second Kbomb/Purefilth.. did you even make out with her? Kiss her? I see no mention of that.
 

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Judge nismo took this girl to chambers. We banged while she's been flakey on you.

Had you kissed her, you wouldn't be in this friendzone right now would you? Now you know your problem. A woman's IOI's are null unless she's been sexual with you. Didn't happen here.

Case closed.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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alpha_ash

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nismo-4 said:
Judge nismo took this girl to chambers. We banged while she's been flakey on you.

Had you kissed her, you wouldn't be in this friendzone right now would you? Now you know your problem. A woman's IOI's are null unless she's been sexual with you. Didn't happen here.

Case closed.
You guys are all right. It was obviously my princess was in someone else's castle. The first time around our dates were very professional and absolutely no touching. I wanted to take it slow that time.

On Friday night, we were both being somewhat sexual. Holding hands, grinding on the dance floor, touching and feeling each other closely, etc. very touchy in general. I know I could have banged her but after she flaked on me, I sort of lost interest and was more interested in one of her friends that I want her to introduce me to.

No kiss. I don't want to kiss a girl who isn't going to earn it! Grind hard, and show me you want me ;) then you get something more. That's how I do things, y'know, I'm the prize she has to work hard to achieve!
 
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