"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Two points is a huge jump, IMO.
 

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Two points is a huge jump, IMO.
It is significant, yes, but it's one part of a complex system. I think in general on these forums it's valued far too much and used as an excuse not to self-improve.
 

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It is significant, yes, but it's one part of a complex system. I think in general on these forums it's valued far too much and used as an excuse not to self-improve.
Oh well, probably. I was talking more about the two points on the SMV scale than about money. If you can go up two points on the SMV scale, that's huge IMO. As you say, two points for some money is probably overvaluing it.

If you can increase your earnings potential though, I would call that self improving, unless you absolutely hate what you're doing. I've always seen earning more money as being more beneficial to yourself than about attracting women. I respect people who choose to live an ascetic lifestyle, but money is an extremely versatile tool that can be very, very useful.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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If you can increase your earnings potential though, I would call that self improving, unless you absolutely hate what you're doing. I've always seen earning more money as being more beneficial to yourself than about attracting women. I respect people who choose to live an ascetic lifestyle, but money is an extremely versatile tool that can be very, very useful.
Oh, absolutely. Anyone who claims they don't want more money is lying. The philanthropists who have the most impact have the most money, so even if you want to help people money is still the goal! Money lets you buy nice clothes, a nice car, a home. All these things increase your attraction immensely. But I'm looking at it from the other angle. Yes, it increases your value, but if you have no value to start with, money doesn't help. That's what the rich guys on this forum don't get. I look good, I have money, girls should fall in my lap! You still need to be a good man for the money to improve your SMV (with gold diggers being the exception). Money is a spice and if you're flavoring a turd, the customer is gonna be unimpressed.
 

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Yes, it increases your value, but if you have no value to start with, money doesn't help. That's what the rich guys on this forum don't get. I look good, I have money, girls should fall in my lap! You still need to be a good man for the money to improve your SMV
Guys here used to (many still do) push the idea that being an @sshole was enough to get you women, so some might disagree that you have to be a good man. Also, I would say practically everybody has some sort of value.
 

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Guys here used to (many still do) push the idea that being an @sshole was enough to get you women, so some might disagree that you have to be a good man. Also, I would say practically everybody has some sort of value.
I say good as an all round red pill man. You do need to be a bit of an ******* because you can't have a strong frame without upsetting people. But being firm about reasonable expectations and morality is fine. If you take that concept to the extreme you're just an *******. It's not something people should be proud of or aspire to be. It's the benevolent king vs the tyrant. Use your power for good.

It's all shades of grey, I did a post about how black and white thinking is likely to cause significant problems but it wasn't particularly popular.
 

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You don't need to be an @sshole. You just can't be a push-over. If you do not have enough self-respect that you will not stand up for yourself, then why should any chick? No respect = No love.
 

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Two points is a huge jump, IMO.
Agreed. Two points is a HUGE jump.

Guys looks by number:

5 - Not on map

6 - Single moms and mail order brides like you

7 - Single moms with no kids like you lol

8 - Chad

9 - Super Chad platinum lithium ion

But to get that two point boost, you have to increase your income by a factor of TEN.

A 75k guy has to somehow get himself up to 750k?

A 100k guy has to clear 1M per year.

That’s a bit ambitious.

Maybe it’s more cost effective to work out and gain one point?
 
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“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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