"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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In the field: IRL conflicts with ideas on So Suave

Naughty Ninja

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Does anyone else ever notice that there are tons of things in real life that conflict as well as agree with the ideas on So Suave? IE: Like hot chicks IRL actually dating dudes who aren't so-called DJ's or GQ.

I know a few chicks like that. And if you've actually opened your eyes you'll see tons of everyday dudes dating all types of chicks.

Now I do believe a lot of posters on So Suave provide excellent tips for a leg up (actually almost all post something at one time or another that can be useful to someone) but I also think a lot of us are way too deep into this "Alpha DJ" nonsense and some possibly driven boarderline insane over some things that you can simply improve yourselves on by not having to go over the same scenario over and over again or stuck in a closed loop about how life is so unfair to the "DJ".

Don't overthink this stuff nor women's or anyones actions/words. Learn from them, share your advice and keep growing without becoming a DJ nutjob over things you sometimes simply cannot control.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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life's just not fair, bro. some guys just get all the luck when it comes to chicks. im just about ready to throw in the towel @ this point :down:
 

VladPatton

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There is such a thing as too much info at one point. One should just take what is applicable to his own life from here. What is good, is that we all share common problems and we acknowledge we need help in certain areas. People were reproducing way before all this alpha, PUA, DJ & seduction crap came to be.

Basically, did our dads know/use any of this sh!t? They were just themselves. Whether they were alpha, smooth, AFC, shy, hard a$$e$, we cannot truly say, but they did manage to reproduce (see mirror).

In a nutshell, take what you can from this forum, there is a lot of good advice. Key word: "advice".
 
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VladPatton said:
There is such a thing as too much info at one point. One should just take what is applicable to his own life from here. What is good, is that we all share common problems and we acknowledge we need help in certain areas. People were reproducing way before all this alpha, PUA, DJ & seduction crap came to be.

Basically, did our dads know/use any of this sh!t? They were just themselves. Whether they were alpha, smooth, AFC, shy, hard a$$e$, we cannot truly say, but they did manage to reproduce (see mirror).

In a nutshell, take what you can from this forum, there is a lot of good advice. Key word: "advice".
^ agree 100%

'learning' is via action/experience, not reading
 

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I absolutely agree that real life often bears no resemblence to advice given on SoSuave. Life, and people, are too varied and complex to fit into a theory. Bottom line, if you find something that sounds good, use it, otherwise I wouldn't take this stuff too seriously.

I think a lot of guys have success from PUA methods simply because they believe in it. It gives them confidence and they go out there and apply it. Which is what they needed in the first place - to get out there and try. The great thing about SoSuave is it tells you that if you get rejected, don't sweat it, go on to the next girl. No one girl is totally special or completely irreplaceable. It's hard to fail if you embrace that attitude.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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zekko said:
I absolutely agree that real life often bears no resemblence to advice given on SoSuave. Life, and people, are too varied and complex to fit into a theory. Bottom line, if you find something that sounds good, use it, otherwise I wouldn't take this stuff too seriously.

I think a lot of guys have success from PUA methods simply because they believe in it. It gives them confidence and they go out there and apply it. Which is what they needed in the first place - to get out there and try. The great thing about SoSuave is it tells you that if you get rejected, don't sweat it, go on to the next girl. No one girl is totally special or completely irreplaceable. It's hard to fail if you embrace that attitude.

thats basically my take on this site as well, one of the dangers of this site is you can become engrossed in soo much theory that, despite being told not to overthink things...a bye product of all this theory is exactly that!
one of the biggets lessons Ive learned is how to deal with the 'rejection', seeing it for what is is, and beng able to move on. its also been good for knocking women off the pedestal.
Like NN stated though, RL often bears no resemblance to the theory on this site.
 
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