"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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In need of quick advice...should I fallback

kenpiffyjr

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Quick...

Chatted with this chick on pof. Hit it off. She seemed very interested.

Anyway..yesterday I came out and was like 'whats your weekend looking like'
Said she had nothing planned except on Sunday. I was like 'OK, Friday night let's get together'. She asked where and I told her a spot where we could kick it and shoot pool and just get to know each other. Did not add all that text...just the specifics. She kinda dodged it and didn't message back until this morning with just a 'Hi.' I replied about 7 hours later to punish her for taking so long and was very brief. We made small talk about our work schedules.
She asked about mine and then I asked about hers. Once she replied I made a joke and said 'Good...not trying to beat you in pool at 10 am in the morning anyway ;)' Chick just went ghost for the rest of the day "all of the sudden". I see some things I may have possibly done wrong but just need some experienced hands on deck to tell me so I can improve but also how to handle it at this point.

Thanks in advance
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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TillTheEndOfTime

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kenpiffyjr said:
Quick...

Chatted with this chick on pof. Hit it off. She seemed very interested.

Anyway..yesterday I came out and was like 'whats your weekend looking like'
Said she had nothing planned except on Sunday. I was like 'OK, Friday night let's get together'. She asked where and I told her a spot where we could kick it and shoot pool and just get to know each other. Did not add all that text...just the specifics. She kinda dodged it and didn't message back until this morning with just a 'Hi.' I replied about 7 hours later to punish her for taking so long and was very brief. We made small talk about our work schedules.
She asked about mine and then I asked about hers. Once she replied I made a joke and said 'Good...not trying to beat you in pool at 10 am in the morning anyway ;)' Chick just went ghost for the rest of the day "all of the sudden". I see some things I may have possibly done wrong but just need some experienced hands on deck to tell me so I can improve but also how to handle it at this point.

Thanks in advance
SEEMED is the operative word here.

Online dating is ALL about looks. Game is practically irrelevant. All girls online are flaky to the 10th degree. It is a numbers game by default when you go online.

There is no room to "improve". Just look your best and hope for a bite. Whether your game is top notch or you have no game to speak of, expect 80%+ to flake on you.

It's no big deal. Move on and stop giving online girls a second thought.
 
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