In my area, I mostly only have success with these types of women. Why?

[Travel memoir21]

Lol, do you honestly think you can get into a Quality relationship doing 'Cold Approaches' unnaturally as if it were your only hobby? Learn to enjoy your life first and live purposely, you said you have a crappy job you don't enjoy, change that. Get into a ' great state of mind' before you go out, the battle's already won before you head out that door. Preparation is key. Ask yourself this question, 'where do you think the good girls hangs out?'

 

[BPH]

Lol, do you honestly think you can get into a Quality relationship doing 'Cold Approaches' unnaturally as if it were your only hobby? Learn to enjoy your life first and live purposely, you said you have a crappy job you don't enjoy, change that. Get into a ' great state of mind' before you go out, the battle's already won before you head out that door. Preparation is key. Ask yourself this question, 'where do you think the good girls hangs out?'

Why do you feel qualified to give advice as often as you do?

 

[Travel memoir21]

Why do you feel qualified to give advice as often as you do?

Lol what advise? I'm giving out basic common sense stuff your father should have taught you in middle school. Things like preparing for a social event before heading out that door, changing your lifestyle to achieve a great state of mind, not needing a woman's validation or any external validation to feel good, learning to be spiritually and emotionally fulfilled, reminding Men that Western-modern women aren't the best options........what's wrong with those? I consider that my Role here in this forum.

 

[BPH]

Lol what advise? I'm giving out basic common sense stuff your father should have taught you in middle school. Things like preparing for a social event before heading out that door, changing your lifestyle to achieve a great state of mind, not needing a woman's validation or any external validation to feel good, learning to be spiritually and emotionally fulfilled, reminding Men that Western-modern women aren't the best options........what's wrong with those? I consider that my Role here in this forum.

The advice you give would be the equivalent of going to a bodybuilding forum and telling everybody they should be comfortable in their own body, and to seek spiritual fulfillment instead...

It's not useful for the questions being asked.

EDIT: The most successful relationship I've had was a girl I cold approached at a pool bar in New Jersey. Saying you won't find high-quality women purely based on the fact that you assume they're never "out in the wild" is nonsensical.

 

[Travel memoir21]

The advice you give would be the equivalent of going to a bodybuilding forum and telling everybody they should be comfortable in their own body, and to seek spiritual fulfillment instead...

It's not useful for the questions being asked.

Lol everything is Spiritual my friend. Scientifically it could be called ' Intangibles', 'force', 'mother nature', 'chi', 'invisible matter', there's a source that created all matter. I'm sure that body builder would benefit greatly if he had a great spiritual life, practiced spiritual activities like Tai chi or Yoga to supplement his work outs and had a great Spiritual foundation and Emotional resilience which leads to fulfillment and social success outside of body building and in turn makes body building more fun.

 

[CornbreadFed]

EDIT: The most successful relationship I've had was a girl I cold approached at a pool bar in New Jersey. Saying you won't find high-quality women purely based on the fact that you assume they're never "out in the wild" is nonsensical.

what was the outcome of that relationship?

 

[BPH]

Lol everything is Spiritual my friend. Scientifically it could be called ' Intangibles', 'force', 'mother nature', 'chi', 'invisible matter', there's a source that created all matter. I'm sure that body builder would benefit greatly if he had a great spiritual life, practiced spiritual activities like Tai chi or Yoga to supplement his work outs and had a great Spiritual foundation and Emotional resilience which leads to fulfillment and social success outside of body building and in turn makes body building more fun.

This is a SEDUCTION forum.

Not a SPIRITUAL ENLIGHTENMENT forum.

what was the outcome of that relationship?

I broke up with her because she saw a future with me that I was way too young to be ready for. She was willing to move wherever I would move and thought we would end up married. I had a conversation with her about this and realized we weren't on the same page and that it wasn't fair to her to continue a relationship where she might waste all that time waiting for me, and I may never come around.

I cut it off so she could meet someone who was ready for that, and eventually she did. She's now married and we're still on good terms. She was a good girl, still is.

 

[Travel memoir21]

This is a SEDUCTION forum.

Not a SPIRITUAL ENLIGHTENMENT forum.



I broke up with her because she saw a future with me that I was way too young to be ready for. She was willing to move wherever I would move and thought we would end up married. I had a conversation with her about this and realized we weren't on the same page and that it wasn't fair to her to continue a relationship where she might waste all that time waiting for me, and I may never come around.

I cut it off so she could meet someone who was ready for that, and eventually she did. She's now married and we're still on good terms. She was a good girl, still is.

This is also a Relationship- How to Find a Quality Woman for a relationship or marriage and also a Self Improvement forum as far as I'm concerned. There's a few Religious and Spiritual dudes in here who can benefit with the dating advise that's given and tayloring it according to their lifestyles and beliefs.

 

[SW15]

This is a SEDUCTION forum.

Yes, it's important to re-state that this is a SEDUCTION forum first and foremost.

Seduction is relevant in both short term and long term sexual relationships.

The most successful relationship I've had was a girl I cold approached at a pool bar in New Jersey. Saying you won't find high-quality women purely based on the fact that you assume they're never "out in the wild" is nonsensical.

There's a common argument made that approaching strangers (especially approaching strangers in bars) is not a way to find quality women.

With the argument about bars, I think that one fails because nearly every unattached person goes to bars at some point as an unattached person. It's not that much of an indicator of quality or not.

Approaching strangers is a difficult path, either in non-bar venues or in bars.

If I don't throw in a couple f bombs, which is my style, then I come across as a bit sweet. Believe me, I've tried that.

Good point.

Cringe style PUA? How else would I catch up to a girl? I don't run in front of her. I jog to catch up to her.

The style of approach I have linked at this exact moment in the video is an example of the cringe style PUA approaches. This example is from an approaching beginner, but it's the general idea.

Women have caught on to this style of approach and now it's considered cringe.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

And here I was guessing fruits, nuts and flakes.

 

[Clockwerk50]

This is also a Relationship- How to Find a Quality Woman for a relationship or marriage and also a Self Improvement forum as far as I'm concerned. There's a few Religious and Spiritual dudes in here who can benefit with the dating advise that's given and tayloring it according to their lifestyles and beliefs.

I think the core issue here is that most men who struggle with women either can't get a girlfriend in the first place, or they lose her quickly, often being ghosted or left confused. The challenge with your advice is that while it's focused on spiritual improvement, you don’t really explain how those ideas directly help a man get into a relationship or maintain one. We've asked several times for clear, real-world examples or proven results from your approach, but so far, we haven't seen that. Without that, it's hard to assess whether your method actually works when it comes to dating success.

 

[Solomon]

These are the women I consistently have the most success with. They usually check all 3 boxes:
Tourists
Traveling alone (or just happen to be themselves when I approach)
Slightly older

It has been much, much harder for me to pull girls that live here (Chicago city area) and are younger. If I get a number, they usually flake/ghost or renege. If those girls are in a group, it gets even harder. Their friends typically ****block and try to speak for her or the girl I came up to rejects to not seem like a $lut, I'm assuming. Occasionally, their friends don't mind and the other girls stand aside and let me work.

I don't want to only score with tourists. There are hot options but there are plenty more attractive girls walking around that live here. Also, the volume of tourists fluctuates. One week, there are a ton and the next, not so much.

Lately, I've been going more direct than usual and take over the interaction with a lot of boldness, and I get more positive reactions than I have with any other approach (in this city). They smile, laugh, I've been told that they love the confidence, they stick in the interaction for a bit longer, etc.

But most of the time, I get the 'Thank you, but I'm seeing someone' 'Thanks, that's sweet but I do have a boyfriend', and 'I don't think my boyfriend would like that.' 'I'm married'(what's odd is they're usually only in their early/mid 20s and already married)
Statistically, it's impossible for 90% of these girls to be taken, so I'm not buying it

The tourists are pretty receptive but should I aim to build more rapport and comfort with the girls that live here? I have described the Chicago population as more reserved and cliquey, so they seem less carefree..

I've not even been getting numbers lately. It's weird. I try something new. One week, it works great and I'm raking more in. The next, it's like my method got patched and no longer works lol.

Starting off indirect, then going direct and building conversation worked pretty good for rapport and getting numbers, but often got told I was sweet and it led nowhere. Rapport building.

Going very direct, bold and brash gets more positive reactions and less blowouts as it gets to the point and is more polarizing, but could be going for the close too quickly, since it triggers the I have a BF response. Emphasis on tonality, less cookie cutter

I made a post on this before and guess I need try practicing mixing both methods together, instead of one or the other.

If you have feedback, please, only from those that cold approach. I don't want a flunk that sticks to dating apps and what not. Cold approach often feels wildly inefficient, but it scratches an itch for me, and dating apps are just a waste of time



Thanks

Chicago is one of the best places to game if you have the confidence to approach like yourself OP.

My question is OP are you approaching women in Hyde Park and Lincoln Park? or are you only gaming in Gold Coast, River North, or Lakeview? that all makes a difference where you approach them. You have the confidence and Chicago is definitely big enough where you should be meeting tons of local chicks but if you're only gaming in Gold Coast for example yeah you're going to meet a lot of tourists

IMO if you're successful with chicks who travel, keep the cost to a minimum and hit spots that locals go to.
Keep dealing with touristy chicks until you can get a local girlfriend or plates or whatever your goal is.

 

[Isildur1]

Lol, do you honestly think you can get into a Quality relationship doing 'Cold Approaches' unnaturally as if it were your only hobby? Learn to enjoy your life first and live purposely, you said you have a crappy job you don't enjoy, change that. Get into a ' great state of mind' before you go out, the battle's already won before you head out that door. Preparation is key. Ask yourself this question, 'where do you think the good girls hangs out?'

I met my girlfriend through cold approach we have been together for three years
Cold approach does work but it requires consistency and effort you can get dates and solid relationships but it does require persistence and good smv

Cold approaching is all about expanding options and getting what you want - it also shows leadership and being proactive about your Problems so you’re not dependent on apps or your social circle - people should not be discouraged from approaching women and creating opportunities imo

 

[Isildur1]

Chicago is one of the best places to game if you have the confidence to approach like yourself OP.

My question is OP are you approaching women in Hyde Park and Lincoln Park? or are you only gaming in Gold Coast, River North, or Lakeview? that all makes a difference where you approach them. You have the confidence and Chicago is definitely big enough where you should be meeting tons of local chicks but if you're only gaming in Gold Coast for example yeah you're going to meet a lot of tourists

IMO if you're successful with chicks who travel, keep the cost to a minimum and hit spots that locals go to.
Keep dealing with touristy chicks until you can get a local girlfriend or plates or whatever your goal is.

In the beginning cold approaching tourist chicks was helpful because it got me into the pattern of getting used to dating often- prior to cold approaching I was only getting 1 date every 8 months or so- when I did cold approach I was getting 4-5 a week so it was a huge shift, it built my confidence a lot and I got used to escalation on dates

of course tourists were more likely to say yes because

They have spare time and have to social circle in the city
They are more likely to be promiscuous
Less likely to be slut shammed
Willing to explore and know locals to expand their knowledge of an area

just makes sense from a basic analysis perspective - local girls usually were more likely to flake if I got their number and much more likely to give the “ I have a boyfriend “objection

 

[Oatmeal31]

Chicago is one of the best places to game if you have the confidence to approach like yourself OP.

My question is OP are you approaching women in Hyde Park and Lincoln Park? or are you only gaming in Gold Coast, River North, or Lakeview? that all makes a difference where you approach them. You have the confidence and Chicago is definitely big enough where you should be meeting tons of local chicks but if you're only gaming in Gold Coast for example yeah you're going to meet a lot of tourists

IMO if you're successful with chicks who travel, keep the cost to a minimum and hit spots that locals go to.
Keep dealing with touristy chicks until you can get a local girlfriend or plates or whatever your goal is.

I went out yesterday and got a lot of receptivity. Picked up a few numbers, all from attractive girls that live here. Thing is, they're super flakey compared to tourists

Downtown, Old Town, Wrigleyville, Streeterville, River North are my go tos

 

[Travel memoir21]

I think the core issue here is that most men who struggle with women either can't get a girlfriend in the first place, or they lose her quickly, often being ghosted or left confused. The challenge with your advice is that while it's focused on spiritual improvement, you don’t really explain how those ideas directly help a man get into a relationship or maintain one. We've asked several times for clear, real-world examples or proven results from your approach, but so far, we haven't seen that. Without that, it's hard to assess whether your method actually works when it comes to dating success.

Hey man…Im still working on my Youtube channel, I’ll take your advise on interviewing random Cute Filipinas about modern relationships. But anyways, I don’t claim to be a guru or don’t have the answers for everything. However, My advice on going abroad or overseas to find a wife while you’re making money in the states is something to consider. I’ve gotten more dating opportunities out here way more than the states. Like I said, I don’t know everything, but I am happy that some of you guys are pulling from cold approaching. If Im gonna Cold Approach, Im gonna taylor it to my personality like ‘approaching’ women while passing out gospel tracts, taking walks to the parks with my dog, street busking on the streets while having a vegetarian potluck. With that said, My goal during that time would also be to make guy friends and friends with a diverse crowd of people. At the end of the day, Im not a Womenizer, Im a laidback People’s Person who happens to know a few woman. Do you guys think this version of ‘ You are my Sunshine’ could capture some hearts while Street Busking?

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Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

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[Oatmeal31]

Lol, do you honestly think you can get into a Quality relationship doing 'Cold Approaches' unnaturally as if it were your only hobby? Learn to enjoy your life first and live purposely, you said you have a crappy job you don't enjoy, change that. Get into a ' great state of mind' before you go out, the battle's already won before you head out that door. Preparation is key. Ask yourself this question, 'where do you think the good girls hangs out?'

I'm not understanding this. You are on a forum that is about getting laid. This is essentially a hobby for us. What you're doing is like walking into a cigar lounge and telling the patrons that snoking is bad for you.

Do you know how to read? I said, feedback from those who COLD APPROACH, not some dingus that thinks it's appropriate to discourage men from improving. Grow some balls

 

[Travel memoir21]

I'm not understanding this. You are on a forum that is about getting laid. This is essentially a hobby for us. What you're doing is like walking into a cigar lounge and telling the patrons that snoking is bad for you.

Do you know how to read? I said, feedback from those who COLD APPROACH, not some dingus that thinks it's appropriate to discourage men from improving. Grow some balls

Good luck finding the women of your dreams and Enjoy your time in Chicago for me.

 

[BPH]

Good luck finding the women of your dreams and Enjoy your time in Chicago for me.

I'm gonna preface this by saying that what I'm about to say isn't an attempt to bash you or be mean.

I took a look at your YouTube channel. Speaking objectively, you're 39, you're a bit short, you're overweight, you're losing hair, you'd benefit from braces, in the one video where I saw your fingers, it looks like they could use a trim, and I think I see some acne scarring on your cheeks.

You are not an attractive prospect to most women. Instead of seeking ways to improve the things I listed above, you went and became a passport bro. Additionally, I would wager that this spiritual enlightenment and all these extracurriculars you take on are ways to try to become more "interesting" to women rather than address these other issues because they're "harder" and take more time.

I could be wrong with that assumption, but I would guess you're defaulting to that lifestyle because it is "easier".

Anyway, the point is, I do not think you should be giving advice on topics you don't know about. Some would say that's like the blind leading the blind, but in your case, it would be the blind leading the sighted - because a lot of people have more experience and success than you, yet you feel comfortable instructing them on what they should do differently.

If I were you, I would focus my time and energy on improving myself before I start preaching to others about how they should live their lives.

EDIT: Furthermore, if spiritual enlightenment is actually your goal, then I don't know why you've come to a seduction forum for that.

 

[Travel memoir21]

I'm gonna preface this by saying that what I'm about to say isn't an attempt to bash you or be mean.

I took a look at your YouTube channel. Speaking objectively, you're 39, you're a bit short, you're overweight, you're losing hair, you'd benefit from braces, in the one video where I saw your fingers, it looks like they could use a trim, and I think I see some acne scarring on your cheeks.

You are not an attractive prospect to most women. Instead of seeking ways to improve the things I listed above, you went and became a passport bro. Additionally, I would wager that this spiritual enlightenment and all these extracurriculars you take on are ways to try to become more "interesting" to women rather than address these other issues because they're "harder" and take more time.

I could be wrong with that assumption, but I would guess you're defaulting to that lifestyle because it is "easier".

Anyway, the point is, I do not think you should be giving advice on topics you don't know about. Some would say that's like the blind leading the blind, but in your case, it would be the blind leading the sighted - because a lot of people have more experience and success than you, yet you feel comfortable instructing them on what they should do differently.

If I were you, I would focus my time and energy on improving myself before I start preaching to others about how they should live their lives.

EDIT: Furthermore, if spiritual enlightenment is actually your goal, then I don't know why you've come to a seduction forum for that.

Thanks for the Constructive Criticism Brother, I'm not trying to be Attractive to most women, I'm just trying to be attractive to the Right Women that's Quality and right for me. As for the Spiritual enlightenment, It's not for women, I think it's a calling. I do it for me and the people around me, I'm fascinated by that stuff because I believe it's the Original Source of life. I'm ultimately here for the Self Improvement factor and The Brotherhood of this forum, I may need to tone things down quite a bit, I'm ultimately just here to observe, mingle, put in a little two cents now and then and eat Pop Corn man.