Okay, during lunch, after I eat if I don't see any girls I want to approach [or if the tables where the girls are at are full], I usually just sit there, and look around. Sometimes I even go sit with my 2 friends, but they get boring after a while(Usually just do their homework). I could sit with my senior friends I know from wrestling, but I fear that I wouldn't be able to add much to the conversation. What I'm aiming to do is get a group of friends that I can hang with outside of school. I already have a lot of people who just say hey, and small talk to me, but no one who I can hang outside of school.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Improving social proof.
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"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
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Dude, how can I make more friends? How can I improve my social proof? That's the question. Infact, how do I make friends period?WesCottII said:Whats your question?
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out of all the guys you make small talk with and say hey....pick the guy you seem to be closest too already and start talking more and then go sit with him at lunch. Then his friends will start to befriend you if he has.
I don't really make small talk with other guys, they make small talk with me. And I'm not really "close" to any of them.WhiteSoledShoes said:out of all the guys you make small talk with and say hey....pick the guy you seem to be closest too already and start talking more and then go sit with him at lunch. Then his friends will start to befriend you if he has.
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
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I'm going to go on a limb and assume wrestlers are like football players... Chances are, conversations pretty much revolve around the Simpsons, women, and cars. Unless you're clueless about all three... you should be ok. There's almost nothing better than hanging out with athletes (while being one yourself) for social proof; you get to the cool parties, you meet hot women, etc. I went from that guy nobody knew to one of the most well-known guys, at least in my graduation class, just because I played football and started hanging out with the cool football players. Just have at 'er.ElStud said:I could sit with my senior friends I know from wrestling, but I fear that I wouldn't be able to add much to the conversation.
Edit: Just to be clear, I answered your original query about social proof, and not how to make friends, though hanging out with other guys and being "buddies" with some will, eventually, lead to that.
ElStud said:Okay, during lunch, after I eat if I don't see any girls I want to approach [or if the tables where the girls are at are full], I usually just sit there, and look around. Sometimes I even go sit with my 2 friends, but they get boring after a while(Usually just do their homework). I could sit with my senior friends I know from wrestling, but I fear that I wouldn't be able to add much to the conversation. What I'm aiming to do is get a group of friends that I can hang with outside of school. I already have a lot of people who just say hey, and small talk to me, but no one who I can hang outside of school.
Bro, you have to make an EFFORT to make new friends, get out there and talk to some people in your class.
Making friends is like, one of the fundamentals of socializing you learned about before you can even remember!
Go look up vibing, use it on men and women! You become friends with someone when you have something in common with them.
Class actually doesn't work, because of my small classes, but I'm in track and I could perhaps make friends there, just wouldn't know what to talk about. However, it seems awkward approaching other guys you don't know.Touchout said:Bro, you have to make an EFFORT to make new friends, get out there and talk to some people in your class.
Making friends is like, one of the fundamentals of socializing you learned about before you can even remember!
Go look up vibing, use it on men and women! You become friends with someone when you have something in common with them.
ElStud said:Class actually doesn't work, because of my small classes, but I'm in track and I could perhaps make friends there, just wouldn't know what to talk about. However, it seems awkward approaching other guys you don't know.
Yes, not going to lie, it is awkward. And maybe you won't know what to talk about, but you know what? If you want to make new friends you have to talk to them anyway.
Well if it's the only way to make new friends, I guess I'll have to do it.Touchout said:Yes, not going to lie, it is awkward. And maybe you won't know what to talk about, but you know what? If you want to make new friends you have to talk to them anyway.
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Talk about them. People love talking about themselves, especially girls. They will be your friend. Soon they will invite you over and you will be having a good old time. It may be boring but it works well enough.
It may be akward but they will eventually warm up. Well unless your super creepy and are not easily approached
Ask them how they did at track.
If they say poorly then ask why
when the say why say ooh that sucks or something
continue conversation to get them to talk about themselves.
It may be akward but they will eventually warm up. Well unless your super creepy and are not easily approached
Ask them how they did at track.
If they say poorly then ask why
when the say why say ooh that sucks or something
continue conversation to get them to talk about themselves.
Talk To Anyone And Everyone. That's what I do. Talk to someone you don't know and act like you know them. pretend you're friends before you even know them. ask them how their day was. it's pretty weird to them at first, but if you keep the conversation friendly they should warm up to you. It's a fast and easy way to meet people and improve you rep.
Social life seems to be improving. At the moment I have 2 groups of people I can hang out with on Saturday, either these other two dudes, or this dude named "David" who wants to jam on Saturday(He plays the drums, I play bass). Eventually I'm going to have to do either one thing or the other.
Wait, what the f*ck? I never made a f*cking excuse. I said I was going to one of my groups of friends houses to chill.gmillar said:You think of way too many excuses to not do things. You just need to hike up your skirt and wade balls-first into life.
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I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Class actually doesn't work
just wouldn't know what to talk about
...seems awkward approaching
apocalypse later
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Those are excuses. How do you plan on making friends if you're too embarassed to approach people? How do you plan on meeting women if you're to embarassed to approach them?
You haven't read any of the recent post in this thread.apocalypse later said:Those are excuses. How do you plan on making friends if you're too embarassed to approach people? How do you plan on meeting women if you're to embarassed to approach them?
Useless thread.
I told you your methods were pointless. I already have friends, I have no reason to get new ones. I'm happy with the friends I have, I don't need new ones. These friends are pretty much all the social proof I need, and since my friends are pretty well known, I make friends off of them. I'm not going to cold approach another guy. I blocked you for a good reason, your advice is not helping me at all, especially when I'm fine how I am.
I told you your methods were pointless. I already have friends, I have no reason to get new ones. I'm happy with the friends I have, I don't need new ones. These friends are pretty much all the social proof I need, and since my friends are pretty well known, I make friends off of them. I'm not going to cold approach another guy. I blocked you for a good reason, your advice is not helping me at all, especially when I'm fine how I am.
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.