"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Okay, during lunch, after I eat if I don't see any girls I want to approach [or if the tables where the girls are at are full], I usually just sit there, and look around. Sometimes I even go sit with my 2 friends, but they get boring after a while(Usually just do their homework). I could sit with my senior friends I know from wrestling, but I fear that I wouldn't be able to add much to the conversation. What I'm aiming to do is get a group of friends that I can hang with outside of school. I already have a lot of people who just say hey, and small talk to me, but no one who I can hang outside of school.
 

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I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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WesCottII said:
Whats your question?
Dude, how can I make more friends? How can I improve my social proof? That's the question. Infact, how do I make friends period?
 

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out of all the guys you make small talk with and say hey....pick the guy you seem to be closest too already and start talking more and then go sit with him at lunch. Then his friends will start to befriend you if he has.
 

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WhiteSoledShoes said:
out of all the guys you make small talk with and say hey....pick the guy you seem to be closest too already and start talking more and then go sit with him at lunch. Then his friends will start to befriend you if he has.
I don't really make small talk with other guys, they make small talk with me. And I'm not really "close" to any of them.
 

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Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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ElStud said:
I could sit with my senior friends I know from wrestling, but I fear that I wouldn't be able to add much to the conversation.
I'm going to go on a limb and assume wrestlers are like football players... Chances are, conversations pretty much revolve around the Simpsons, women, and cars. Unless you're clueless about all three... you should be ok. There's almost nothing better than hanging out with athletes (while being one yourself) for social proof; you get to the cool parties, you meet hot women, etc. I went from that guy nobody knew to one of the most well-known guys, at least in my graduation class, just because I played football and started hanging out with the cool football players. Just have at 'er.

Edit: Just to be clear, I answered your original query about social proof, and not how to make friends, though hanging out with other guys and being "buddies" with some will, eventually, lead to that.
 

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ElStud said:
Okay, during lunch, after I eat if I don't see any girls I want to approach [or if the tables where the girls are at are full], I usually just sit there, and look around. Sometimes I even go sit with my 2 friends, but they get boring after a while(Usually just do their homework). I could sit with my senior friends I know from wrestling, but I fear that I wouldn't be able to add much to the conversation. What I'm aiming to do is get a group of friends that I can hang with outside of school. I already have a lot of people who just say hey, and small talk to me, but no one who I can hang outside of school.

Bro, you have to make an EFFORT to make new friends, get out there and talk to some people in your class.

Making friends is like, one of the fundamentals of socializing you learned about before you can even remember!

Go look up vibing, use it on men and women! You become friends with someone when you have something in common with them.
 

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Touchout said:
Bro, you have to make an EFFORT to make new friends, get out there and talk to some people in your class.

Making friends is like, one of the fundamentals of socializing you learned about before you can even remember!

Go look up vibing, use it on men and women! You become friends with someone when you have something in common with them.
Class actually doesn't work, because of my small classes, but I'm in track and I could perhaps make friends there, just wouldn't know what to talk about. However, it seems awkward approaching other guys you don't know.
 

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ElStud said:
Class actually doesn't work, because of my small classes, but I'm in track and I could perhaps make friends there, just wouldn't know what to talk about. However, it seems awkward approaching other guys you don't know.

Yes, not going to lie, it is awkward. And maybe you won't know what to talk about, but you know what? If you want to make new friends you have to talk to them anyway.
 

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Yes, not going to lie, it is awkward. And maybe you won't know what to talk about, but you know what? If you want to make new friends you have to talk to them anyway.
Well if it's the only way to make new friends, I guess I'll have to do it.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Talk about them. People love talking about themselves, especially girls. They will be your friend. Soon they will invite you over and you will be having a good old time. It may be boring but it works well enough.

It may be akward but they will eventually warm up. Well unless your super creepy and are not easily approached

Ask them how they did at track.
If they say poorly then ask why
when the say why say ooh that sucks or something
continue conversation to get them to talk about themselves.
 

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Talk To Anyone And Everyone. That's what I do. Talk to someone you don't know and act like you know them. pretend you're friends before you even know them. ask them how their day was. it's pretty weird to them at first, but if you keep the conversation friendly they should warm up to you. It's a fast and easy way to meet people and improve you rep.
 

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Social life seems to be improving. At the moment I have 2 groups of people I can hang out with on Saturday, either these other two dudes, or this dude named "David" who wants to jam on Saturday(He plays the drums, I play bass). Eventually I'm going to have to do either one thing or the other.
 

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You think of way too many excuses to not do things. You just need to hike up your skirt and wade balls-first into life.
 

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gmillar said:
You think of way too many excuses to not do things. You just need to hike up your skirt and wade balls-first into life.
Wait, what the f*ck? I never made a f*cking excuse. I said I was going to one of my groups of friends houses to chill.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Those aren't excuses. Those are proofs.
 

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Those are excuses. How do you plan on making friends if you're too embarassed to approach people? How do you plan on meeting women if you're to embarassed to approach them?
 

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apocalypse later said:
Those are excuses. How do you plan on making friends if you're too embarassed to approach people? How do you plan on meeting women if you're to embarassed to approach them?
You haven't read any of the recent post in this thread.
 

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Useless thread.

I told you your methods were pointless. I already have friends, I have no reason to get new ones. I'm happy with the friends I have, I don't need new ones. These friends are pretty much all the social proof I need, and since my friends are pretty well known, I make friends off of them. I'm not going to cold approach another guy. I blocked you for a good reason, your advice is not helping me at all, especially when I'm fine how I am.
 
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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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