"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Immature move on my part?

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Former ex, long time friend I've been tryin to romance again:

Me - let's go to the movies tonight
Her - that requires money
Me - good observation, your age is really startin to show (she just turned 22)
Her - I'm busy tonight anyway
Me - no you're not
Her - I know you like to think I only leave the house for you but you're mistaken darling
Me - I hope that's not true. But for the fun factor I'd believe it

Conversation proceeds me askin what she's doin tonight that doesn't cost money and subtle hints suggest she's cookin with a guy she's been talkin to. Without blatantly telling me so

Her - I actually don't mind payin for some things but not for that movie
Me - you're a waste of my time

I said that and blocked her on aim chat. (I'm at work, helps time go by I know ill get bad mouthed about it ha)

Anyway was that an immature move and also if I delete her as my friend on myspace? Because she'll obviously know I did.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Seems very childish and very AFC. Also seems like you really need to start talking to other women.

Basically because you didn't get your way, you're blocking her and deleting her? Sounds like the equivelent (sp?) of "You're not my friend anymore!! I'm taking my toys and going home!!" or better yet "Screw you guys.... I'm going home".

Advice.. grow up.... move on with your life.... after you've moved on, get some new girls to go with it.
 

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It would seem that way but to me it seemed as a way of saying "you're goin to show interest in another guy, I don't have time to be second best"
 

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wrong, it shows you are not in control of your emotions and that she can pull your strings without even trying
 

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Man, don't keep chasing her. Read the DJ bible for christsakes.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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cNfny

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How would she be able to pull my strings if that's saying I'm done with you?
 

cNfny

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So what would have been the right way to handle it?
 

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from here...

Her - I actually don't mind payin for some things but not for that movie

You - I'll make you pay, but not in cash. ;) It's cool, have fun tonight and let's catch up later this week.

Don't block. It shows you care too much.
 

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Just dont talk to or hang out with her man..Dont waste time find another chick.
As it is she did say shes going to cook for some guy, then most likey she is seeing someone.
It was a AFC move, but remember we sometimes do mess up.
And I would delete her on your myspace. =)
 

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You're 18 year old Dave Chappelle.

"Girl you gotta open up. Last week at that DasFX concert, I rickety realized I lickety love you. Clickety claw!"

"You think that all I wanna do is zooma zoom zoom in your boom boom. CLICKETY CLAW!"

It's what he said after reflecting on himself that pertains to you:
"What a biggety b1tch."

Think about it, biggety b1tch.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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You guys are right so I said this to her after she asked to hang out this weekend (which shows she didn't take what was said earlier seriously)

look you're a great girl and its always an awesome, unique, exciting, fun time when we get together and hang out but I've grown tired of the surrogate bf role with no intimacy

I'm at the point where i need more to satisfy my desires as a man in which you refuse to provide. So let's not continue wasting one another's time anymore especially mine, I'm busy. Hope you find a great guy one day who'll treat you right. Take care.
 

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Come on guys pick me apart some more with that ha
 

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Man, why don't you just hit her over the head with a shovel and be done with it? Women are subtle, there's no need to be so obvious.

So, just out of curiosity, what did she say to that?
 

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i didnt give her a chance to respond. just ended it like that.

so you think it was too much?
 

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Its a lost cause at this point man.

Only thing you can do is move on entirely.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Its a lost cause at this point man.

Only thing you can do is move on entirely.
for future reference, was what i said too much? perhaps just avoided her?
 

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Yeah what you said was AFC dude. Sorry man.

Anyway though PhatElv1s gave you a great reply up there which would've been the kind you should've used instead.
 

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Use the "STR8T WALK" method. (I coined that phrase from STR8UP's advice about walking away)

It means rather than explaining yourself and your feelings of frustrations to the "object of your desire" you simply. WALK away.

Just WALK AWAY. She doesn't need your explanation or your excuses. You are your own man and if someone doesn't fit the bill of what you want out of a person...WALK AWAY. No e-mails no phone calls no attention.

Here's the link the the post:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=129594
 

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ThunderMaverick said:
Use the "STR8T WALK" method. (I coined that phrase from STR8UP's advice about walking away)

It means rather than explaining yourself and your feelings of frustrations to the "object of your desire" you simply. WALK away.

Just WALK AWAY. She doesn't need your explanation or your excuses. You are your own man and if someone doesn't fit the bill of what you want out of a person...WALK AWAY. No e-mails no phone calls no attention.

Here's the link the the post:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=129594
STR8 WALK has just become a staple in my vocabulary.
 

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ThunderMaverick said:
Use the "STR8T WALK" method. (I coined that phrase from STR8UP's advice about walking away)

It means rather than explaining yourself and your feelings of frustrations to the "object of your desire" you simply. WALK away.

Just WALK AWAY. She doesn't need your explanation or your excuses. You are your own man and if someone doesn't fit the bill of what you want out of a person...WALK AWAY. No e-mails no phone calls no attention.

Here's the link the the post:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=129594
My favorite line from that post, priceless and so true:

"Sure, you will be able to blow off a little steam, but do you REALLY think you're gonna make a WOMAN feel guilty and see the error of her ways? NEVER. NOT A FUKKIN CHANCE IN THE WORLD."
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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