"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Immature move on my part?

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Former ex, long time friend I've been tryin to romance again:

Me - let's go to the movies tonight
Her - that requires money
Me - good observation, your age is really startin to show (she just turned 22)
Her - I'm busy tonight anyway
Me - no you're not
Her - I know you like to think I only leave the house for you but you're mistaken darling
Me - I hope that's not true. But for the fun factor I'd believe it

Conversation proceeds me askin what she's doin tonight that doesn't cost money and subtle hints suggest she's cookin with a guy she's been talkin to. Without blatantly telling me so

Her - I actually don't mind payin for some things but not for that movie
Me - you're a waste of my time

I said that and blocked her on aim chat. (I'm at work, helps time go by I know ill get bad mouthed about it ha)

Anyway was that an immature move and also if I delete her as my friend on myspace? Because she'll obviously know I did.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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kdnash82

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Seems very childish and very AFC. Also seems like you really need to start talking to other women.

Basically because you didn't get your way, you're blocking her and deleting her? Sounds like the equivelent (sp?) of "You're not my friend anymore!! I'm taking my toys and going home!!" or better yet "Screw you guys.... I'm going home".

Advice.. grow up.... move on with your life.... after you've moved on, get some new girls to go with it.
 

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It would seem that way but to me it seemed as a way of saying "you're goin to show interest in another guy, I don't have time to be second best"
 

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wrong, it shows you are not in control of your emotions and that she can pull your strings without even trying
 

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Man, don't keep chasing her. Read the DJ bible for christsakes.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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cNfny

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How would she be able to pull my strings if that's saying I'm done with you?
 

cNfny

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So what would have been the right way to handle it?
 

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from here...

Her - I actually don't mind payin for some things but not for that movie

You - I'll make you pay, but not in cash. ;) It's cool, have fun tonight and let's catch up later this week.

Don't block. It shows you care too much.
 

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Just dont talk to or hang out with her man..Dont waste time find another chick.
As it is she did say shes going to cook for some guy, then most likey she is seeing someone.
It was a AFC move, but remember we sometimes do mess up.
And I would delete her on your myspace. =)
 

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You're 18 year old Dave Chappelle.

"Girl you gotta open up. Last week at that DasFX concert, I rickety realized I lickety love you. Clickety claw!"

"You think that all I wanna do is zooma zoom zoom in your boom boom. CLICKETY CLAW!"

It's what he said after reflecting on himself that pertains to you:
"What a biggety b1tch."

Think about it, biggety b1tch.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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You guys are right so I said this to her after she asked to hang out this weekend (which shows she didn't take what was said earlier seriously)

look you're a great girl and its always an awesome, unique, exciting, fun time when we get together and hang out but I've grown tired of the surrogate bf role with no intimacy

I'm at the point where i need more to satisfy my desires as a man in which you refuse to provide. So let's not continue wasting one another's time anymore especially mine, I'm busy. Hope you find a great guy one day who'll treat you right. Take care.
 

cNfny

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Come on guys pick me apart some more with that ha
 

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Man, why don't you just hit her over the head with a shovel and be done with it? Women are subtle, there's no need to be so obvious.

So, just out of curiosity, what did she say to that?
 

cNfny

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i didnt give her a chance to respond. just ended it like that.

so you think it was too much?
 

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Its a lost cause at this point man.

Only thing you can do is move on entirely.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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cNfny

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Its a lost cause at this point man.

Only thing you can do is move on entirely.
for future reference, was what i said too much? perhaps just avoided her?
 

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Yeah what you said was AFC dude. Sorry man.

Anyway though PhatElv1s gave you a great reply up there which would've been the kind you should've used instead.
 

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Use the "STR8T WALK" method. (I coined that phrase from STR8UP's advice about walking away)

It means rather than explaining yourself and your feelings of frustrations to the "object of your desire" you simply. WALK away.

Just WALK AWAY. She doesn't need your explanation or your excuses. You are your own man and if someone doesn't fit the bill of what you want out of a person...WALK AWAY. No e-mails no phone calls no attention.

Here's the link the the post:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=129594
 

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ThunderMaverick said:
Use the "STR8T WALK" method. (I coined that phrase from STR8UP's advice about walking away)

It means rather than explaining yourself and your feelings of frustrations to the "object of your desire" you simply. WALK away.

Just WALK AWAY. She doesn't need your explanation or your excuses. You are your own man and if someone doesn't fit the bill of what you want out of a person...WALK AWAY. No e-mails no phone calls no attention.

Here's the link the the post:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=129594
STR8 WALK has just become a staple in my vocabulary.
 

Jaxon

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ThunderMaverick said:
Use the "STR8T WALK" method. (I coined that phrase from STR8UP's advice about walking away)

It means rather than explaining yourself and your feelings of frustrations to the "object of your desire" you simply. WALK away.

Just WALK AWAY. She doesn't need your explanation or your excuses. You are your own man and if someone doesn't fit the bill of what you want out of a person...WALK AWAY. No e-mails no phone calls no attention.

Here's the link the the post:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=129594
My favorite line from that post, priceless and so true:

"Sure, you will be able to blow off a little steam, but do you REALLY think you're gonna make a WOMAN feel guilty and see the error of her ways? NEVER. NOT A FUKKIN CHANCE IN THE WORLD."
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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