DON JUANS CANT VENT TO PEOPLE. **** I GUESS I HAVE TO VENT HERE. and this is also a great lesson for newbs.
I havent posted in 6-7 years.
In my teens i wanted to break out of the nerdy lonely life so badly. 4 things helped change me: 1. car 2. gym 3. job 4. sosuave
As i suspect most of you are like, i am good at reading and absorbing then applying information. Knowing that i never actually took notes or followed rules directly, just kinda read a lot and used what i remembered. Im 24 now. I guess 17-21 i was a half dj. Now im not only an afc but i became a creeper.
I got a 5 year relationship not too long after imade changes. We would be on and off but id totally run that relationship, she was my *****. I finally ended things with her because i felt so bad for making her miserable i decided to not be selfish and let her be. Btw in case it matters, im up to like 13-14 girls right now, tho i tell people im in my 20s haha.
I HAVE NEVER ADMITTED THIS STUFF TO ANYONE:
To help me get over her and not want to go back i went onto plentyoffish last year cause my friends were getting lotta girls off it. My one friend in his own way used "natural direct game" and it worked for him often. I used that freshman year of college it was great.
So i stumbled across this HOT HOT HOT puerto rican chick (why are ricans, columbians, and dominicans so hot??). We vibed like crazy.. we spent weeks/months talking on the phone non stop all day all night. Really.. we never got off the phone id do work and have her on the phone. I guess i just ignored the obvious ljbf that was coming, and this is why: she would always tell me how she really wanted me how she loved me and wed be togeter eventually and waiting will be worth it. In the back of my mind im thinking, yeah sure you're probably going to keep me around until you find your next guy. It was obvious we didnt even live near each other im not that stupid. But i clinged onto her anyway and just kept getting deeper and deeper into it.
What happened was that everytime we made plans from week #1, shed cancel on me. Typical right. I always wanted to believe thered be a point where shed actually hang out with me. After all, just ONE TIME and i can get waht i want right? I wasnt shy with her understand this: i would be very sexual and forward there was no direct ljbf. I would accuse her of not really having interest in me and shed deny it no matter how hard id push her to just admit it.
She said she has no intention of being with anyone else btw because when she meets someone she knows is worth it she waits. And in case you're curious i later find out from her that the reason we got off to that kind of a start was because her ex raped her and abused her and threatened her not to see me because he found out apparently.
I was so ashamed of all this id lie to everyone who knew me and say i chilled with her and ****ed her. i honestly think i was going through my own depression for other reasons, which caused me to cling to her even though i knew better. Isnt that the worst? knowing you're doing something wrong and not being able to stop?
To play her game i thought i could manipulate her into seeing me. Believe me newbies i tried EVERY POSSIBLE ANGLE. Most of you guys get a straight ljbf. I talk to this girl today she still insists that she really did want me and wasnt fronting. Id cut her off with talking, like talk to her much less, thinkin shed miss me and give me what i want to get waht she wants. Made her resent me. In fact it made her feel like i wasnt there for her when she needed me (the things going on with her ex).
In the meantime she starts talking to another guy (now we're zooming forward to spring this year) over a few months while we're distancing and eventually ****s him after a huge fight we have. The next few months is spent her strugging to decide if she wants me or him cause she just "realized" she can like two guys at once. plus she was so angry cause at that point she knew i slept with other girls (particularly my ex). so again i thought id be smart and reverse this and make her believe i didn actually **** anyone.
I had my ex even pretend like she didnt know this girl was listening in on our call when i asked her to tell me if she ever slept with me or not in the past year (to which she says no of course). So then she wasnt so angry at me anymore and supposedly stopped seeing him so that she can try to be with me. Of course still a year later its all about her having to "get herself to be able to even see me" WE HAVE NOT EVEN HUNG OUT ONCE. Id tell her everything guys trust me.. that i loved her that i cared about her, wanted to marry her, etc. It bit me backin the ass so hard because she then saw me as a liar and a cheater. My obsession with getting her to be with me caused all of this. She saw right through me because of it.
whats the point of all this? i guess the bottom line is if you cant have normal interaction with a girl the way we understand it to be, from the very beginning, it will never be right. It can only spiral downwards, never up.
i knew this, i ignored it. now im miserable and have to get over it.
in almost every relationship someone is on the **** end of the stick guys. in my first one it was my ex. then it was me. this community is brilliant in that it protects guys from being on that end. its just like those women communities where they try to protect themselves from men.
thats why djs might be looked down upon by others, but in actuality we arent out to put girls on the **** end of the stick, just trying not to be. all the major players in this community say that and its true.
non-newbs do me a favour please. even after going through all this material again, dj bible, online vids, mystery and others' old archives, etc etc.. i still ended up sending her a txt last night after we agreed to stop communicating (because i mainly stopped after reading here again). it caused a whole bad fight today and its like i cant help but get sucked in i just feel like **** and she wins so ****ing bad. I GET IT I WONT WIN EVER WITH THIS. But please guys just beat it into my brain that i have no shot with this girl... ever.
I havent posted in 6-7 years.
In my teens i wanted to break out of the nerdy lonely life so badly. 4 things helped change me: 1. car 2. gym 3. job 4. sosuave
As i suspect most of you are like, i am good at reading and absorbing then applying information. Knowing that i never actually took notes or followed rules directly, just kinda read a lot and used what i remembered. Im 24 now. I guess 17-21 i was a half dj. Now im not only an afc but i became a creeper.
I got a 5 year relationship not too long after imade changes. We would be on and off but id totally run that relationship, she was my *****. I finally ended things with her because i felt so bad for making her miserable i decided to not be selfish and let her be. Btw in case it matters, im up to like 13-14 girls right now, tho i tell people im in my 20s haha.
I HAVE NEVER ADMITTED THIS STUFF TO ANYONE:
To help me get over her and not want to go back i went onto plentyoffish last year cause my friends were getting lotta girls off it. My one friend in his own way used "natural direct game" and it worked for him often. I used that freshman year of college it was great.
So i stumbled across this HOT HOT HOT puerto rican chick (why are ricans, columbians, and dominicans so hot??). We vibed like crazy.. we spent weeks/months talking on the phone non stop all day all night. Really.. we never got off the phone id do work and have her on the phone. I guess i just ignored the obvious ljbf that was coming, and this is why: she would always tell me how she really wanted me how she loved me and wed be togeter eventually and waiting will be worth it. In the back of my mind im thinking, yeah sure you're probably going to keep me around until you find your next guy. It was obvious we didnt even live near each other im not that stupid. But i clinged onto her anyway and just kept getting deeper and deeper into it.
What happened was that everytime we made plans from week #1, shed cancel on me. Typical right. I always wanted to believe thered be a point where shed actually hang out with me. After all, just ONE TIME and i can get waht i want right? I wasnt shy with her understand this: i would be very sexual and forward there was no direct ljbf. I would accuse her of not really having interest in me and shed deny it no matter how hard id push her to just admit it.
She said she has no intention of being with anyone else btw because when she meets someone she knows is worth it she waits. And in case you're curious i later find out from her that the reason we got off to that kind of a start was because her ex raped her and abused her and threatened her not to see me because he found out apparently.
I was so ashamed of all this id lie to everyone who knew me and say i chilled with her and ****ed her. i honestly think i was going through my own depression for other reasons, which caused me to cling to her even though i knew better. Isnt that the worst? knowing you're doing something wrong and not being able to stop?
To play her game i thought i could manipulate her into seeing me. Believe me newbies i tried EVERY POSSIBLE ANGLE. Most of you guys get a straight ljbf. I talk to this girl today she still insists that she really did want me and wasnt fronting. Id cut her off with talking, like talk to her much less, thinkin shed miss me and give me what i want to get waht she wants. Made her resent me. In fact it made her feel like i wasnt there for her when she needed me (the things going on with her ex).
In the meantime she starts talking to another guy (now we're zooming forward to spring this year) over a few months while we're distancing and eventually ****s him after a huge fight we have. The next few months is spent her strugging to decide if she wants me or him cause she just "realized" she can like two guys at once. plus she was so angry cause at that point she knew i slept with other girls (particularly my ex). so again i thought id be smart and reverse this and make her believe i didn actually **** anyone.
I had my ex even pretend like she didnt know this girl was listening in on our call when i asked her to tell me if she ever slept with me or not in the past year (to which she says no of course). So then she wasnt so angry at me anymore and supposedly stopped seeing him so that she can try to be with me. Of course still a year later its all about her having to "get herself to be able to even see me" WE HAVE NOT EVEN HUNG OUT ONCE. Id tell her everything guys trust me.. that i loved her that i cared about her, wanted to marry her, etc. It bit me backin the ass so hard because she then saw me as a liar and a cheater. My obsession with getting her to be with me caused all of this. She saw right through me because of it.
whats the point of all this? i guess the bottom line is if you cant have normal interaction with a girl the way we understand it to be, from the very beginning, it will never be right. It can only spiral downwards, never up.
i knew this, i ignored it. now im miserable and have to get over it.
in almost every relationship someone is on the **** end of the stick guys. in my first one it was my ex. then it was me. this community is brilliant in that it protects guys from being on that end. its just like those women communities where they try to protect themselves from men.
thats why djs might be looked down upon by others, but in actuality we arent out to put girls on the **** end of the stick, just trying not to be. all the major players in this community say that and its true.
non-newbs do me a favour please. even after going through all this material again, dj bible, online vids, mystery and others' old archives, etc etc.. i still ended up sending her a txt last night after we agreed to stop communicating (because i mainly stopped after reading here again). it caused a whole bad fight today and its like i cant help but get sucked in i just feel like **** and she wins so ****ing bad. I GET IT I WONT WIN EVER WITH THIS. But please guys just beat it into my brain that i have no shot with this girl... ever.