"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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I've said it and I've said it again, negativity will only lead you into bad places.

Believe me, I know how it feels to be a total social outcast/loser. Been there, done that for three full years of middle school, but I've turned my life a full 180 degrees since then. Now, I'm doing awesome. I have all the friends I could possibly ask for and I get invited to more parties than I can go to. Sure, it's a rather drastic difference, but believe me, there was no one 'magic advice' that I took to instantly turn my life around. It required months upon months of work and self-improvement. With that aside, I will explain exactly why people persist in disliking you.

The keyword here is NEGATIVITY. Everybody gets it once in a while. When you get dumped or when you fail an important test, you might get a bit down, and this is perfectly appropriate and acceptable. It is okay to be negative in small doses. That's just the way of life, with its ups and downs.

Now understand that in your constand mindset of "depression", you are CONSTANTLY and PERSISTENTLY negative. Of course, some people will try to help you or reach out, but because you have been so conditioned as a social outcast, you have trained yourself never to trust anybody but yourself. Of course, there will be a few good samaritans who will actually try to give you a helping hand, but you will not accept it because of your own self-piteous nature.
Now, think of this dilemma from ANOTHER person's perspective, say, Bob. Bob is a friendly guy, he gets along with his group of friends, and is generally a nice guy. He notices that you are emotionally down (sad, angry, or otherwise) and tries to lend a helping hand. He might spend some time to talk to you or even invite you to join his clique in hopes of breaking through your negativity. HOWEVER, because you are so self-absorbed in your own negativity, you don't accept his help, and even if you do, you remain paranoid of people's intentions. At one point, you have to realize that Bob will appropriately think, "Hmm, well I tried to help him, but if he just wants to keep staying negative then it's his problem." and he is perfectly right for thinking so.

Again, I will reiterate that it is perfectly okay to be negative SOMETIMES, but this is only in contrast to a vast majority of POSITIVE attitudes. If you are down, some people will take time out of their own lives to try to brighten your day. However, since you refuse their help and choose to remain negative, you are presumed to be completely absorbed in your own dark ball of angst.

This is an unconscious conditioning of the mind that comes from being ostracized. General suspicion of others motives when they get close. Sabotaging of relationships. Hostility of anybody who tries to criticize. It is nobody's fault but your own, and that is a fact that you will have to accept sooner or later. Nobody on this planet OWES you anything. Nobody is OBLIGATED to help you with anything. But when somebody DOES help you, you twist their motives horribly and snap at them.

In this world, your own misery is your own choice. People make fun of you because, in your negativity, you have created a scapegoat for them. People are annoyed by you because you are persistently negative. People do not want to interact with you because you are hostile. People do not want to give you any constructive criticism because you will twist it into "insults". People tease you because you are easily infuriated and annoyed. People don't even feel like dignifying your replies because you are constantly coming up with reasons justifying your negativity instead of working to improve yourself. People don't like you because you don't even like yourself.

The only change that can come of anything can only come from YOU. NOBODY ELSE. You can can get a sad, angry, or annoyed as you want, but the only solution to your problem is if you admit that it is your OWN fault. After that, all you need to do is to solve the REAL problem.

-Damian



ONCE AGAIN!!!! AWSOME POST for dreamx. Take this one seriosuly man, and dont reply here again, you got the best advise from us, and there are no more questions to ask, BYE now
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Yes I will take your guys advice, but going to a ghetto school sucks it makes me a outcast.But you know what im not going to care anymore?You know why because well next year im going to switch schools.And then start college in one of the top leading most educated college in America!And I admit i am complaining but what vegasguy posted it kinda is hurt of,he thinks its a joke well lets see when he gets banned.Im going to report his ass!Ok but if you guys read my last thread I was not complaining in matter of fact it was about me making a change.But when I tried it well justs say it didn't work out well.But let me say something enough with the negative comments about me.
 

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Damian said:
I've said it and I've said it again, negativity will only lead you into bad places.

Believe me, I know how it feels to be a total social outcast/loser. Been there, done that for three full years of middle school, but I've turned my life a full 180 degrees since then. Now, I'm doing awesome. I have all the friends I could possibly ask for and I get invited to more parties than I can go to. Sure, it's a rather drastic difference, but believe me, there was no one 'magic advice' that I took to instantly turn my life around. It required months upon months of work and self-improvement. With that aside, I will explain exactly why people persist in disliking you.

The keyword here is NEGATIVITY. Everybody gets it once in a while. When you get dumped or when you fail an important test, you might get a bit down, and this is perfectly appropriate and acceptable. It is okay to be negative in small doses. That's just the way of life, with its ups and downs.

Now understand that in your constand mindset of "depression", you are CONSTANTLY and PERSISTENTLY negative. Of course, some people will try to help you or reach out, but because you have been so conditioned as a social outcast, you have trained yourself never to trust anybody but yourself. Of course, there will be a few good samaritans who will actually try to give you a helping hand, but you will not accept it because of your own self-piteous nature.
Now, think of this dilemma from ANOTHER person's perspective, say, Bob. Bob is a friendly guy, he gets along with his group of friends, and is generally a nice guy. He notices that you are emotionally down (sad, angry, or otherwise) and tries to lend a helping hand. He might spend some time to talk to you or even invite you to join his clique in hopes of breaking through your negativity. HOWEVER, because you are so self-absorbed in your own negativity, you don't accept his help, and even if you do, you remain paranoid of people's intentions. At one point, you have to realize that Bob will appropriately think, "Hmm, well I tried to help him, but if he just wants to keep staying negative then it's his problem." and he is perfectly right for thinking so.

Again, I will reiterate that it is perfectly okay to be negative SOMETIMES, but this is only in contrast to a vast majority of POSITIVE attitudes. If you are down, some people will take time out of their own lives to try to brighten your day. However, since you refuse their help and choose to remain negative, you are presumed to be completely absorbed in your own dark ball of angst.

This is an unconscious conditioning of the mind that comes from being ostracized. General suspicion of others motives when they get close. Sabotaging of relationships. Hostility of anybody who tries to criticize. It is nobody's fault but your own, and that is a fact that you will have to accept sooner or later. Nobody on this planet OWES you anything. Nobody is OBLIGATED to help you with anything. But when somebody DOES help you, you twist their motives horribly and snap at them.

In this world, your own misery is your own choice. People make fun of you because, in your negativity, you have created a scapegoat for them. People are annoyed by you because you are persistently negative. People do not want to interact with you because you are hostile. People do not want to give you any constructive criticism because you will twist it into "insults". People tease you because you are easily infuriated and annoyed. People don't even feel like dignifying your replies because you are constantly coming up with reasons justifying your negativity instead of working to improve yourself. People don't like you because you don't even like yourself.

The only change that can come of anything can only come from YOU. NOBODY ELSE. You can can get a sad, angry, or annoyed as you want, but the only solution to your problem is if you admit that it is your OWN fault. After that, all you need to do is to solve the REAL problem.

-Damian
Dude I defintely agree with negative thoughts gets me no where in my last thread I even said postive thoughts gets me somewhere.Damian thanks for the advice Im defintely going to put that in my head!
 

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Stop asking for advice that you have already gotten.

You already have all the answers you just choosing to complain that is why your a ****ing retarded waste of space.

Don't just freak out like the loser you are when people speak the truth. If there is logic in their words then listen to it retard.

There is logic in these words.

-> Your a ****ing loser. Your even more of a ****ing loser for complaining about it and then not doing anything. It's obvious that you don't want to do anything and that you just want to complain and get validation and pity. Your not going to get this pity. Your a ****ing loser. Either fix it or keep getting treated like ****.
Ok who the **** said I want to get pity?I never posted that I wanted pity from anyone you dumbass.How do you know I do not want to change,if i did not want to change I would not be on this site.Man your an idiot before you post on my thread,make posts that make sense not some made up ****!
 

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man this ignore function is cool. I can't read dreamx's crap.

don't worry though dude, viper can be your friend on my ignore list.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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the first thing you could do is to stop letting little things get to you like that last post you made. Getting all defensive doesn't help. You need a kick in the ass anyway to get you going. Go buy or download 'double your dating' by david deangelo, or at least get some emails. That threw my nice guy AWAY. Then, find/grab your balls and start acting like a man.
 

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Ok who the **** said I want to get pity?I never posted that I wanted pity from anyone you dumbass.How do you know I do not want to change,if i did not want to change I would not be on this site.Man your an idiot before you post on my thread,make posts that make sense not some made up ****!
THAT kind of bull is exactly what I mean. STOP IT. STOP IT NOW. I've read this whole thread through, and everybody has been giving you advice or criticism that would otherwise HELP you, but you are too busy interpreting their criticism as insults. Then you try to burn them back for something that they are trying to help you with. STOP IT, YOU IDIOT. STOP BEING NEGATIVE.

-Damian
 

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the first thing you could do is to stop letting little things get to you like that last post you made. Getting all defensive doesn't help. You need a kick in the ass anyway to get you going. Go buy or download 'double your dating' by david deangelo, or at least get some emails. That threw my nice guy AWAY. Then, find/grab your balls and start acting like a man.
Obviously you dont get these thread your another idiot get out of here!
 

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Obviously you dont get these thread your another idiot get out of here!
Again, he's right, you're wrong. He's giving sound advice on how to improve. You are stuck in your negativity. What do you hope to gain from calling people names? Sure, they'll stop trying to help.

-Damian
 

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Damian said:
THAT kind of bull is exactly what I mean. STOP IT. STOP IT NOW. I've read this whole thread through, and everybody has been giving you advice or criticism that would otherwise HELP you, but you are too busy interpreting their criticism as insults. Then you try to burn them back for something that they are trying to help you with. STOP IT, YOU IDIOT. STOP BEING NEGATIVE.

-Damian
Ok I really really liked your last post its something Im going to use.Ok so when someone posts something negative about me like calling me a loser,You expect to just read it and not respond?Well your wrong I will respond back insult them,and they not all are critizing me its mostly actually insults.Look I get names called me in real life and now the internet.Im going to start acting like a jerk more because im not taking **** from anyone in real life or the internet anymore!
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Guys lets stick to the subject its about helping not argueing with each other.So just post useful stuff which means advice not stuff that include loser because its wasting my time.
 

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Ok I really really liked your last post its something Im going to use.Ok so when someone posts something negative about me like calling me a loser,You expect to just read it and not respond?Well your wrong I will respond back insult them,and they not all are critizing me its mostly actually insults.Look I get names called me in real life and now the internet.Im going to start acting like a jerk more because im not taking **** from anyone in real life or the internet anymore!
The only reason people keep doing it is BECAUSE you get angry and lash out. Not the other way around. Everybody gets called names in real life.

"Dude, you're such a F!cking fag!"
Me: Hey, it's a lifestyle. *Pick up nearest HB and french* It works.
You: DUDE, YOU'RE THE FAG! UR A TOTAL A-HOLE!

The difference is there. And again, you are mistaken.

-Damian
 

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Guys lets stick to the subject its about helping not argueing with each other.So just post useful stuff which means advice not stuff that include loser because its wasting my time.
Let me set this straight here. YOU are here, ASKING for other people's advice. You are asking them for a FAVOR. You are requesting that they go out of their way and take THEIR time and energy to help YOU. Be a bit more appreciative, or at least act like you're actually listening.

-Damian
 

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Damian said:
Let me set this straight here. YOU are here, ASKING for other people's advice. You are asking them for a FAVOR. You are requesting that they go out of their way and take THEIR time and energy to help YOU. Be a bit more appreciative, or at least act like you're actually listening.

-Damian
Yes Im here asking other people's advice,but when I ask people advice they should not post stuff like your loser.Is that advice?No its not they are mostly insulting me rather then giving advice.Im lashing out alot because most of the stuff im reading as nothing to do with subject and its not advice either.Its just mostly insults which I get in real life and it doesn't help.But seriously Damian me and your arguements are not helping me or this thread lets stick to the real subject.Lets all post more useful stuff no dumb or kiddy posts.
 

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Well im going to signoff guys I will go read a book or do something.Im getting off the internet until people on this thread learn that im here for advice only not for insults.Damian what you posted I will use it,but for now im signing off be back later on tonight!
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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dreamx... here all the advice people are giving you?

DO YOU?

If you do, ignore the negativity, seriously, it's pathetic. DO you know what pathetic means, literally, not figuratively? I'm sure you do, you are intelligent enough to create elaborate plans within your mind that negate evolutionary processes of thought. Your skipping past your psychological self-defense mechanisms(yes that is a field of study, look it up) and going directly into predaotr mode... to bad you are preying on unnatural emotions. Pathetic is something that inspires pity. If HUGE groups of people(i.e. your entire high school) expresses scornful pity, than that is pretty much a clear indicator of empathetic aggression in your direction...

In other words, people are laughing at you. It makes them feel good to notice the extremes in life.

Want to solve that?

Start cracking more jokes... make it at their expense if you want to improve your reputation instead of giving them fuel to hurt you with.

Negativity... pshaw, man, you have to get rid of it...
 

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dreamx said:
Yes Im here asking other people's advice,but when I ask people advice they should not post stuff like your loser.Is that advice?No its not they are mostly insulting me rather then giving advice.Im lashing out alot because most of the stuff im reading as nothing to do with subject and its not advice either.Its just mostly insults which I get in real life and it doesn't help.But seriously Damian me and your arguements are not helping me or this thread lets stick to the real subject.Lets all post more useful stuff no dumb or kiddy posts.
Kid, you need a serious attitude change. Nothing, absolutely NOTHING justifies your lashing out. When you start a thread, you are giving people open reign over whatever they want to say about you. Nobody is going to give you just peaches and cream. Considering the way you are persistently acting, I'm surprised that you haven't been banned from the forums. Take your real-life experience with insults into play. If you lash out at people in real life, do they immediately stop teasing you and suddenly respect you as a man? Nope. It only shows them that their teasing works because you are getting emotionally affected by lashing out.

And another thing. Why in god's name are you thinking of everything in terms of arguing or insulting? It's all in your own negative interpretation. I can tell you that EVERY SINGLE post on this thread, even the aggressive and offensive ones can be interpreted into something that you could do to improve yourself.

Example: "I'm putting you on my ignore list."
Procedure: Why is he doing that? He can't tolerate me. Why? Probably because I'm being aggressive or negative.

-Damian
 

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Well im going to signoff guys I will go read a book or do something.Im getting off the internet until people on this thread learn that im here for advice only not for insults.Damian what you posted I will use it,but for now im signing off be back later on tonight!
Y'know those insults? Take them to heart. It is the impression that you give people. He calls you a loser? You project a LOSER personality. He calls you a PATHETIC loser? You project a PATHETIC personality. Don't do the stupid thing and lash out. Use it to improve yourself.

On the other hand: Regarding your problem with respect. In asking for advice, you should be on your knees groveling for whatever criticism from anybody. Get off your self-proclaimed high-stool and show proper respect. "Im still a pathetic depressed loser!!!" What are you going to do to change that?

And i seriously want an answer to that question, kid.

-Damian
 

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I got a better idea..

Dreamx deserves to be treated like ****.

So just don't reply and he'll continue to get treated like **** and continue to be a **** up.
 

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This is pretty funny, But I am sick of all your excuses and crap. Either get out there and show us that you actually care enough to change, or get off these forums.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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