"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I'm so ****ing pissed right now

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****, ****, ****, ****. This girl I've slept with before comes over to chill tonight, says she wants to watch some movies and stay the night. Try to physically escalate, she isn't receptive at all. Eventually she borrows my phone to call some guy to come pick her up (probably to **** her). ****ing christ I hate women.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Wooooah...did you do something? Be more specific
 

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Sorry to hear that. Chicks can be flaky and ruthless sometimes. You did all you could. I'm glad you at least tried to escalate with her. I cringe reading these posts about, "This girl came over and slept in my bed. I didn't try anything with her. Now she won't answer my calls/texts. What should I do now?"

I would go NC on her. It isn't so much the fact that she didn't f*ck you. It's her coming over to have some alone time with you and then having some dude pick her up early. That's total BS.

Notwithstanding, was she at least a little receptive initially and then went cold on you? Sometimes, the slightest thing can turn them off.
 

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Last week we're chilling and she starts pulling this whole "would you ever date me?" bs. I say maybe, she gets all offended and tells me we're not having sex anymore. I'm like whatever. We head to a club, she gets drunk, and at the end of the night says she's not coming to my place and to get lost. I leave.

Delete her off fb this week since I'm not interested in being her gay friend. She messages me today asking why I deleted her and she wants to hang out tonight, watch movies and stay over. She calls me right after to say the same thing. I say "ok, come over, was staying in tonight anyways". She gets here, we're watching a movie, I try to kiss her, she doesn't kiss me back much. Later on I kiss her neck and tits (she has big tits and she wears low cut tops). She tells me to stop. Shortly after this she gets moody and calls this guy. Deleted her once again on fb and sent her a message saying that I don't want to hang with her again.
 

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Mike32ct said:
Sorry to hear that. Chicks can be flaky and ruthless sometimes. You did all you could. I'm glad you at least tried to escalate with her. I cringe reading these posts about, "This girl came over and slept in my bed. I didn't try anything with her. Now she won't answer my calls/texts. What should I do now?"

I would go NC on her. It isn't so much the fact that she didn't f*ck you. It's her coming over to have some alone time with you and then having some dude pick her up early. That's total BS.

Notwithstanding, was she at least a little receptive initially and then went cold on you? Sometimes, the slightest thing can turn them off.
she wasn't that receptive today at all. Last week we were making out til her question came up, and after that she wouldn't kiss me.

Today she'd give me a peck on the lips, but that's it. We were messing around and I pinned her down, held her arms above her head, started kissing her chest, and she started moaning. But ultimately told me to stop.

And this bs is that what I need right now. I'm already in a ****ty mood about my experiences with women recently, I honestly don't need this crap.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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It really seems like you didn't get your point accross to her or something... I personally..
1. tell a woman what it is I want without telling her how I feel (at least before sex, then feelings are okay)
2. avoid lies when letting her know
3. don't ask many questions
4. assume verbal rapport
5. project sexual state to her

There it is... if we're alone especially its a done deal, of coarse every situation should be tailored differently because I will not feel the same way about one chick as I do about another AND every chick is different from the next
 
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VastanVer2.0 said:
she wasn't that receptive today at all. Last week we were making out til her question came up, and after that she wouldn't kiss me.

Today she'd give me a peck on the lips, but that's it. We were messing around and I pinned her down, held her arms above her head, started kissing her chest, and she started moaning. But ultimately told me to stop.

And this bs is that what I need right now. I'm already in a ****ty mood about my experiences with women recently, I honestly don't need this crap.
I guess you weren't aggressive enough, or maybe you should have lied and claimed to be with her to screw her... or... shes crazy.
 

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VastanVer2.0 said:
Last week we're chilling and she starts pulling this whole "would you ever date me?" bs. I say maybe, she gets all offended and tells me we're not having sex anymore. I'm like whatever. We head to a club, she gets drunk, and at the end of the night says she's not coming to my place and to get lost. I leave.

Delete her off fb this week since I'm not interested in being her gay friend. She messages me today asking why I deleted her and she wants to hang out tonight, watch movies and stay over. She calls me right after to say the same thing. I say "ok, come over, was staying in tonight anyways". She gets here, we're watching a movie, I try to kiss her, she doesn't kiss me back much. Later on I kiss her neck and tits (she has big tits and she wears low cut tops). She tells me to stop. Shortly after this she gets moody and calls this guy. Deleted her once again on fb and sent her a message saying that I don't want to hang with her again.
That explains it. She wanted to "forget" the ONS thing ever happened and start off new as bf/gf. This would mean having to "wait" anywhere from 3 dates to 6 weeks to properly f&ck as a couple. If you're just looking for a FB, she isn't it. Find some other girls.
 

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That explains it. She wanted to "forget" the ONS thing ever happened and start off new as bf/gf. This would mean having to "wait" anywhere from 3 dates to 6 weeks to properly f&ck as a couple. If you're just looking for a FB, she isn't it. Find some other girls.
Well I wouldn't make her my gf unless I could trust her, and this episode tonight (among others) has demonstrated that I can't. Plus I haven't had a gf in a long time and I was liking how things were going between us, and she had to go and ****ing ruin it.
 

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VastanVer2.0 said:
Well I wouldn't make her my gf unless I could trust her, and this episode tonight (among others) has demonstrated that I can't. Plus I haven't had a gf in a long time and I was liking how things were going between us, and she had to go and ****ing ruin it.
Agreed. I don't think she's relationship material either.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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delayed anti-slut response. She thinks she should be dating to be screwing. She didn't like the maybe...she wanted a yes, it was so good I'll be your slave forever just give me sex. OR she thought you were now IN a relationship and wanted to build it on more than sex
 

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sodbuster said:
delayed anti-slut response. She thinks she should be dating to be screwing. She didn't like the maybe...she wanted a yes, it was so good I'll be your slave forever just give me sex. OR she thought you were now IN a relationship and wanted to build it on more than sex
she didn't think we were dating. She said multiple times that we're not dating. Yet she'd be calling me daily (before she lost her phone). She's a slut. She's probably ****ing that guy as I type this. And I couldn't pick up a girl if my life depended on it (which is why this is pissing me off).
 

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VastanVer2.0 said:
she didn't think we were dating. She said multiple times that we're not dating. Yet she'd be calling me daily (before she lost her phone). She's a slut. She's probably ****ing that guy as I type this. And I couldn't pick up a girl if my life depended on it (which is why this is pissing me off).
You got this girl once and f*cked her. You can do it again with another girl. Believe me, the ONLY thing that keeps me going in this game is the fact that I've gotten laid before. You gotta use the same mindset.

I know how you feel though. It used to boil my blood to know that a girl that rejected me hooked up with another dude or it at least it APPEARED that she might have. With time and experience, I learned to "charge it to the game" and let it go.
 
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