I'm sick of calling and texting girls.

[razkay]

When do girls stop playing the 'hard to get' game? I don't think girls ignore their boyfriend's calls/texts. The last four girls I've seen have all taken an interest in me. We hang out, kiss, have sex...but a couple days pass after seeing each other, I will call or text but they don't respond. They'll either respond 8 or more hours later, or not respond at all. I don't have a girlfriend, but I do have casual relationships.

I usually call and if they don't call me back, I'll text 45 minutes later. That's the extent of contact I make with a girl.

Am I just meeting the wrong types of girls?

Do all girls play the "I'm not answering his call/text" even if they're interested?

Do you have any tips on what to text a girl?

I normally don't leave voice messages since cell phones keep a record of missed calls. Should I start leaving voicemails?

Should I automatically next a girl if she doesn't return my call or text? Does it look desperate to call the next day?

 

[cola]

When do girls stop playing the 'hard to get' game?

When you demonstrate you have a higher value then the plethera of males that already contact them on a consistent basis.

I usually call and if they don't call me back, I'll text 45 minutes later. That's the extent of contact I make with a girl.

Try leaving detailed messages on there voicemail. Explaining who you are, where they met you, how to reach you. If they don't contact you by then, wait 2-3 days, try again and then delete there number if your not contacted, there not interested.

I normally don't leave voice messages since cell phones keep a record of missed calls. Should I start leaving voicemails?

Yes.

Am I just meeting the wrong types of girls?

No, not really. An attractive girl probably gets approached 10-20 times a week(thats alot of dudes monthly). Really, its probably more to do with your approach. You need to try leaving a lasting impression on them so they don't forget you.
And are looking forward to your call..

Good luck

 

[trent81]

You answered your own question. You are in casual relationships. They don't owe you anything. You are not number one. If you want to be number one. Demand it. Don't have sex with them unless they are in a relationship with you. If you want casual sex, don't worry if they call you or not. It's either the red pill or the blue pill. You can't have both.

 

[razkay]

These girls I already been intimate with a couple times. I'm not talking about random girls I meet in a club. I would definitely leave a voicemail on their phones.

 

[razkay]

You answered your own question. You are in casual relationships. They don't owe you anything. You are not number one. If you want to be number one. Demand it. Don't have sex with them unless they are in a relationship with you. If you want casual sex, don't worry if they call you or not. It's either the red pill or the blue pill. You can't have both.

I tried this already and I got put in the friendzone. I either have sex way too early (and it turns into a casual relationship), or I act too friendly and become just a friend.

I have no idea how to establish a girlfriend/boyfriend relationship. I am tired of having sex with a girl a couple times and that's it. I actually want a relationship.

 

[cola]

I tried this already and I got put in the friendzone. I either have sex way too early (and it turns into a casual relationship), or I act too friendly and become just a friend.

Your sex is either bad, or these are chicks who aren't interested in a relationship. And there is nothing wrong with being nice.. As long as its not in a AFC way.

I have no idea how to establish a girlfriend/boyfriend relationship. I am tired of having sex with a girl a couple times and that's it. I actually want a relationship.

Don't rush it. Just keep meeting new girls, and it'll come.

 

[razkay]

Your sex is either bad, or these are chicks who aren't interested in a relationship. And there is nothing wrong with being nice.. As long as its not in a AFC way.

The only time I have bad sex is because of:

a) alcohol
b) time constraint
c) uncomfortable location
d) first time having sex with a girl

I don't *** quickly. I eat pu55y rather well. But I'm not demanding or crazy when it comes to having sex with a girl for the first time. I'm open to anything but I don't know what she likes, or how she likes it. So, I stick to the basic positions and rhythms. If it's our third time having sex and I know her body better, I loosen up a lot more.

Should I just do what I want with a girl and let her stop me if she's not into it?

(I'm much better at talking to girls and escalating, but now my sex may be the problem. What's next? I haven't even been in a LTR before...I'm probably gonna crash and burn when that time comes too.)

 

[razkay]

Do girls find it more pleasing after a heavy make-out session and no sex? If she comes over your house but you give her no sex, would this improve chances of her answering your call or seeing you again?

 

[Tyson420]

Do girls find it more pleasing after a heavy make-out session and no sex? If she comes over your house but you give her no sex, would this improve chances of her answering your call or seeing you again?

Why would you do that?

Maybe you just aren't ****ing her right.

 

[horaholic]

I dont think bad sex is the issue.

The girls might only see you as a ONS kind of guy, or they are getting buyers remorse. How soon are you banging these girls after you meet them?

Maybe the girl was on the rebound, or was drunk, or just didnt feel it with you. This same thing happens to me quite often.

Another reason is if you come off clingy after the interaction. That will KILL any further chances.

When you call, leave a message, always. Make the message fun and interesting, not a biography. Check out this link here. This is really good stuff for calls, and texts.

http://www.rsdnation.com/node/60168

Heres a couple more bonus links
http://www.rsdnation.com/node/84921
http://www.rsdnation.com/brad/blog/texting-helping-guys-get-laid-1993
http://www.rsdnation.com/ryan%C2%AE/blog/texting-cheat-codes-%E2%80%93-making-it-easy

This will help you phone game immensely.

I dont think its the phone game thats hurting you so much though. I think you may be coming off too eager, or not fun enough. After you bang a girls, you need to still be fun guy, not serious 'we've fvcked now, so everything is different.'

Flakes are normal, and chicks only wanting to bang you once is normal to an extent. It may be something out of your control. Ex bf shows back up, you were a rebound, she had her eye on another guy, and you were just a distraction, she just felt like getting laid, without any strings, etc.

It happens, but if it happens too frequently, its in indicator that your inner game needs to be stepped up. Or maybe you're giving creep vibes after you bang her. I've been guilty of that one many times. On the other hand, if you come off too distant afterwards, the girl assumes she was just another notch on you night stand, and moves on. You need to be fun, and playful, and give her that vibe that everything is good and chill, and there's no expectations, but are open for anything.

Also, read the DJ bible. You are chasing these girls. You should give them a reason to chase you. YOU ARE THE PRIZE. She can either return your call, or see you with another girl next weekend. You have to adopt an abundance mentality. Its the mans job to break down the defence barrier to have sex. its the womans job to break down a mans defences for a relationship. Guys who want more, without qualifying the girl, are the male equivilant of a slvt. They give in to relationships too easily, and girls dont respect them. A girl should have to WORK for anything more than sex.

Remember: be UNREACTIVE. it doesnt matter if she calls you back or not. Then next time you see her, you will still be fun, and cool, but you'll leave with another woman next time. This will attract the chick back again, also.

 

[trent81]

I tried this already and I got put in the friendzone. I either have sex way too early (and it turns into a casual relationship), or I act too friendly and become just a friend.

I have no idea how to establish a girlfriend/boyfriend relationship. I am tired of having sex with a girl a couple times and that's it. I actually want a relationship.

Then you have to take your time. Don't have sex with them right away. Let them chase YOU. Meaning, act cool and see if she's into you. Try to hook her. Don't have sex but be sexual with her. You are having same problems I had. Easy to have sex, but hard to make them your girlfriend. You have to date them, take them out, make them feel good. But they have to know that it takes alot for them to win your heart. It takes alot for you to even have sex. Act hard to get. Be the one who doesn't return calls right away. Let them work for it. Some will just not want a relationship, ones who do will chase you. SPEND TIME WITH THEM in a sexual sort of way. Make it clear you are not her "girlfriend", you are a future "boyfriend".

 

[trent81]

Do girls find it more pleasing after a heavy make-out session and no sex? If she comes over your house but you give her no sex, would this improve chances of her answering your call or seeing you again?

Yes, they think "what the fuvk is up with this guy?". "Is there something wrong with me?". Play hard to get. Tease her and say "I don't think this is a good idea". Hhahaa just play with their heads, be unpredictable. It's difficult, but if you can do it, she will be like "damn, I want him more". Do this only IF YOUR GOAL IS RELATIONSHIPS. IF YOUR GOAL IS SEX, HAVE SEX WITH HER ASAP, sometimes they will try to hook you cause they get attached sexually. But in this day and age, these chicks are like dudes, sex is just sex for them. So hook them emotionally, don't give them what they want right away.

 

[Jitterbug]

Its the mans job to break down the defence barrier to have sex. its the womans job to break down a mans defences for a relationship.

OP, read that over and over again. Don't do her job for her.

If a girl wants a relationship with you and has already slept with you, she might play hard to get a little but she will definitely hunt you down. It'll be obvious.

Also...

Am I just meeting the wrong types of girls?

That could be true too. Many young girls these days (I assume that, since you're 25, you're dealing with mostly 18~25 y.o) just do not want to be in a relationship. They're all about casual & hookups. They want the freedom to travel overseas at whim, move to other cities or countries, work on their career, party it up etc. - choices & freedom that they will pay dearly for later down the track.

If you're getting dates & sex, you're doing fine. Don't sweat it too much.