Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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I'm quitting porn FOREVER

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If you have the willpower, you can quit it like any drug. Just WATCH OUT when you find yourself "surfing" the net.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Kestrel said:
I am not saying quiting porn is impossible, in fact it is doable. But base on what you wrote and what I can read of you, it will not happen with you (not yet at least). You see, those who can quit simply are already strong enough to do it. If you are not strong enough yet, you will always bounce back. Since you are trying to quit so you don't feel bad about yourself, to me, it is simply a sign of weakness. You are driven by an emotion, therefore, you will eventually reach a point where you feel a strong need to relief yourself. That's when you bounce back.

I could be wrong but I try and tell it as it is. Keep me posted on your progress if you do attempt this path. Good luck.
I understand what you're saying, but as I said in my first post, I want to quit for several reasons, not just because "I feel bad after doing it.".
 

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I did the same thing, and it is very possible, you feel the need to jack for the first days, then it becomes easier, but now I jack once a week because I dont want to start having wet dreams.
Its really great to quit jacking like crazy, you will feel very horny, but with proper sleep you will also feel more awake, with more energy, and with a much better view on yourself and the world.
and if you cant just quit jacking, try doing it only at nights, jacking in the morning made me feel like sh*t trough all the day.
good luck dude
 

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DJ Shaka said:
I understand what you're saying, but as I said in my first post, I want to quit for several reasons, not just because "I feel bad after doing it.".
Ultimately, what I was trying to get across in my first post was that porn wasn't the problem but your perception of porn. It is like a fat girl blaming the jeans making her look big. Until you fix the underlying core, every solution will only be temporary and the problem can still manifest itself in other form.
 

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Kestrel said:
Ultimately, what I was trying to get across in my first post was that porn wasn't the problem but your perception of porn. It is like a fat girl blaming the jeans making her look big. Until you fix the underlying core, every solution will only be temporary and the problem can still manifest itself in other form.
Ok I get it now.

I'm not sure if I agree with you. I believe quitting porn is the first step to fix that underlying core. If not then what do you propose?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I guess the point is that you can't go into it half-heartedly. You have to KNOW you can throw porn out forever. You can't even cheat and just look at it every once it awhile. Just like a recovering smoker can't have "just one" cigarette.

If you are not firm in this, then your brain will create all kinds of excuses to get porn back on the computer screen.
 

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Lockheed said:
I did the same thing, and it is very possible, you feel the need to jack for the first days, then it becomes easier, but now I jack once a week because I dont want to start having wet dreams.
Its really great to quit jacking like crazy, you will feel very horny, but with proper sleep you will also feel more awake, with more energy, and with a much better view on yourself and the world.
and if you cant just quit jacking, try doing it only at nights, jacking in the morning made me feel like sh*t trough all the day.
good luck dude
Thanks brah.

One thing though. I don't want to quit jacking, I want to quit porn ;)
 

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Darth said:
I guess the point is that you can't go into it half-heartedly. You have to KNOW you can throw porn out forever. You can't even cheat and just look at it every once it awhile. Just like a recovering smoker can't have "just one" cigarette.

If you are not firm in this, then your brain will create all kinds of excuses to get porn back on the computer screen.
Definitely! That's why the title of this thread is "quitting porn FOREVER".
 

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DJ Shaka said:
Ok I get it now.

I'm not sure if I agree with you. I believe quitting porn is the first step to fix that underlying core. If not then what do you propose?
You have to uproot the very reason you have such a negative view of porn. Then you have to uproot the very reason you have an attachment to porn. Then when you neither care for either those reasons (meaning it does not affect you emotionally anymore), you are ready to quit anytime.
 

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DJVladdy said:
Don't take adderall and turn on a porn site... ever
LOL

back to OP, quitting porn is a good thing, but don't give up on scheduled masturbation. it's actually natural and good for our health (read prostate studies). just rely on some other medium to assist you.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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So you are saying I should format my 1.76 TB server full of porn?

I will agree that jerkin it makes you incredibly lazy and tired.

All sexual motivation is lost with the sense of instant satisfaction from porn.

BUT porn got me through a bad breakup. Porn got rid of the stress/depression that was taking over my regular life cycle until I found several other rebounds

So in the end, porn is a great stress relief when needed. :)
Word up brother. I read an article and this girl said the sex with the guy who watches porn was much better than the guy who doesn't. Take from it what you will.

You're missing the point. That point is: the more you jerk off and watch porn on a regular basis, the more lazy you will become and the less motivation and desire to go out and pursue goals you will have.

You are using porn and the sole reason for not going out and objectifying it. Porn is just one vice of 50,000. The more junk food you eat, the more lazy you become and the less motivation and desire to go out and pursue goals you will have. The more tv you watch, the more lazy you become and the less motivation and desire to go out and pursue the goals you have. The more you lose your hair, the more lazy...The more you get old, the more lazy...The more you fail your exams, the more lazy....The less exercise you do, the more lazy...It could be so many things, and the bottom line is how strong you are, not how powerful a third party is in preventing you from doing what you should be doing.

You can't blame porn, you have to blame yourself for watching it and in turn, making you lazy. I know guys who watch alot alot of porn and are doctors and very rich, very successful, with the best girlfriends ever.


Mystery is just giving advice:

"Hey guys, if you don't get laid, try not to masturbate and watch porn compulsively, it will make things worse".

The advice is not logical, the same advice could be applied to any situation in life. I could give the same advice: "Hey guys, if you don't get laid, try not to watch to and read magazines compulsively, it will make things worse." Well no kidding. Again, if something is not working in one aspect of your life, you cannot blame a third party (porn) You have to change it within yourself. You cannot categorize porn as the cause of your problems.

Blaming porn for not going out and being lazy
= blaming Hersey's for making you fat and lazy.
 

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If you feel guilty about a habit, you brain is trying to tell you that something isn't right. Sounds like porn is keeping you from taking care of other aspects of your life. Find that balance: keep your game tight and enjoy the rewards of porn; but don't use porn as a crutch or escape.
great advice... goes for a lot of negative emotions and feelings.
 

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It's a psychostimulant.

...basically - you'll start jerking off..
2 hours later: i think i should stop..
6 hours later: no, seriously!
10 hours later: i think my dyck is turning blue by now
 

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I tried quitting several times. Once I didn't see porn for several months, then I got stressed out over something then came back to porn. Tried quitting again, then came back again.

Every time I quit, I deleted my porn collection, and when I came back I was like "fvck, I shouldn't have deleted them!"

Seriously, unless I am married to a smoking hot lady who's up for sex at any time and any day, that's the day I'd quit porn
 

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Hm, that's up to you. I love porn and get a lot of pleasure from it... every 5-6 days it's another adventure and I try new things to spice up my alone time. But if you want to give it up forever, that's your choice. If you're not enjoying it then giving it up is probably the right thing to do.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Porn is for married men who's wives got fat and/or wont put out anymore.

Get busy ƒucking real women gentlemen. Sex is in your bedroom, not on the monitor.
 

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I'm addicted. I go to kindgirls.com and freeporn.hu everyday. I'm trying to ween myself off it, but it's hard to not want to look at naked beautiful women for free.
 

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Man are you serious? I think it should be an automatic assumption that by quitting porn he meant quitting jerking off; they're the same thing.

lol at the people who say watching porn reduces stress. Wtf are you people thinking and how could that possibly work? Porn cannot possibly effect your stress life; it's just something to do when you're bored and something that makes your d!ick feel good.
Yeah I was serious with that statement. His post sounds as if he wants to change his behavior of watching porn. He made no statement about wanting to stop jerkin it.

Please note that other guys here have said they stopped watching porn but still jerk it.

I just think it's easier to watch porn, tends to take care of things quicker and I can get on with my day.
 

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DonJuan11 lol wtf man.

I'm not blaming porn itself. Porn may be good, bad or neutral depending on the person.

I'm quitting porn because I believe it has negative effects in my life. It's an addiction that is interfering with my life.

A fat guy who quits Hersheys quits not because he's blaming the Hersheys, but because it's interfering with his goals.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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