"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I'm officially over "looks" after seeing this couple.

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http://i45.tinypic.com/eajseo.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/6sf1g0.jpg

That's him and his girlfriend. The only thing he has going for him is that he's tall. I'm not sure if he's rich (doubt it), but that doesn't matter. She could find a better looking rich dude.

****, I'm not ugly and I have a job and get paid good money for someone my age. I started going to the gym and I love my body (I'm cut), but I need about 15 more pounds to be happier. I'm smart, witty, and nice (in a good way).

If a girl doesn't want me because I'm black, slim, not tall enough, or not rich enough....**** her. She missed out on an excellent experience.

That's my mindset from now on. Her lost and my time wasn't wasted.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder my friend. I personally don't find her to be amazingly hot or anything. I would definitely go out with her though. But I prefer blondes anyway...
 
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The pic doesn't prove anything, because shes not hot, ATALL, Its still not going to get you the IOI's you want. How many times have people said this to you my man?

This is why people outside this "seduction community" think were weird, posting random couples to help your own self-esteem, c'mon dude.
 
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Mate, she's a 6, AT THE VERY MOST. Most people would probably rate her a 5. I hate threads like these which are posted stating the guy is fugly, not rich etc. Who fvcking cares. Have you ever considered there's something to be said for JUST LIKING SOMEBODY? She likes him - get over it. He probably has the chatter, banter and swagger that most people on this forum lack.
 
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I would steal that girl from him.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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You're all forgetting something about the looks department. It's strange that nobody has noticed this before. Listen.

Women seem to like guys that have a certain profile: a nerd, a jerk, a skater, a goth, a chav. Something that sets them apart from other men. An average looking guy with jeans, sneakers and a t-shirt is neither. Rather than something, he's a man with no profile, no name, a nothing. The common belief that love isn't a fairy tale is partially false. Women like typical fantasies. Wether it's Beauty and the Beast or Beauty and Superman, they're all part of the many dream worlds a man can show to a woman. But what dream world, what fantasy has the avarage guy to show a girl? Nothing.
 
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Wow, I thought she was pretty good looking. Guess my standards are low.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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J. Darko said:
Women seem to like guys that have a certain profile: a nerd, a jerk, a skater, a goth, a chav. Something that sets them apart from other men. An average looking guy with jeans, sneakers and a t-shirt is neither. Rather than something, he's a man with no profile, no name, a nothing. The common belief that love isn't a fairy tale is partially false. Women like typical fantasies. Wether it's Beauty and the Beast or Beauty and Superman, they're all part of the many dream worlds a man can show to a woman. But what dream world, what fantasy has the avarage guy to show a girl? Nothing.
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Too bad all that sh*t doesn't apply to a black guy (a nerdy black guy isn't cool).

My only option is a gangsta image or well-dressed brotha. I despise gangstas so guess I gotta go with the other...
 
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Special T said:
Too bad all that sh*t doesn't apply to a black guy (a nerdy black guy isn't cool).

My only option is a gangsta image or well-dressed brotha. I despise gangstas so guess I gotta go with the other...
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you can be whatever you wanna, mayne. just be true to yourself...society can't make you choose between two things that aren't you....

I wear a chain, but I also wear a damn nice, classy watch. I wear ALIFES and Rock and Republic Jeans together. I gel my hair so its messy. If its bright I'll wear sunglasses, if its cold I'll wear a stocking cap. I have no problem rocking tims and a goose down or jeans with a nice dress shirt, maybe a tie or a blazer if its game day (basketball). I'm white, but I'm still not picking one of these "defined" images. I'm carving out my own image. People recognize me on campus.

As Drake once said, "mm, mm, mm, I cannot relate. Ridin' with some tags that I got from outta state, ridin' with a swag that I got from outer space.......I’m so fresh, a stylist would agree, waving at your girl while she’s smiling back at me, like…"


^my lifestyle
 
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Special T said:
Wow, I thought she was pretty good looking. Guess my standards are low.
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I think she's attractive, she has an understated beauty about her. Neither look full of themselves, looks like a good match.
 
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I don't know why you guys are even picking apart this chick's looks. There are far better examples to demonstrate what scientists have learned about how females choose their mates. Just open your eyes. Try to see through the virtual ticker of "Looks matter....deal with it" and "You aren't good-looking enough for this girl" floating in front of your face that's been implemented by the entertainment industry and magazine ads and notice your surroundings.

Dezombification is one of the hardest things to do for yourself, but unless you undertake the journey...you will never be truly free.
 
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I've seen worst looking guys with hotter looking girls.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Special T said:
http://i45.tinypic.com/eajseo.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/6sf1g0.jpg

That's him and his girlfriend. The only thing he has going for him is that he's tall. I'm not sure if he's rich (doubt it), but that doesn't matter. She could find a better looking rich dude.

****, I'm not ugly and I have a job and get paid good money for someone my age. I started going to the gym and I love my body (I'm cut), but I need about 15 more pounds to be happier. I'm smart, witty, and nice (in a good way).

If a girl doesn't want me because I'm black, slim, not tall enough, or not rich enough....**** her. She missed out on an excellent experience.

That's my mindset from now on. Her lost and my time wasn't wasted.
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Wow your pathetic, I laugh when people like you complain about this crap...Wana know whats funny, Im short, I have physical difference then other guys, yet I am still able to get phone numbers, and dates. So what I say to you my friend, get over your ****en pouty mood, you won't get a beautiful girl just being like this.
 
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shes not all that about 7 and hes not that ugly about 7 good couple and you can see hes got a good personality
 
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Special T, and everyone else:

you need to learn that in general, good looking girls have NO interest in dweebs, nerds, geeks, or creepy guys.

I can also say that the guy in the photos got this girl because he is laid back and fun to be with - something that YOU should strive for, as opposed to your jealous bitter attitude.
 
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its just a fat chic and a nerd...they are perfect for each other.

Get over it.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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