"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I'm not into drinking. What can I do?

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I'm not into drinking due to personal beliefs. I believe it poisons the mind and body. It's bad for your liver. Most broken homes comes from a result of alcoholism. It makes your mind unclear. Drunk drivers are self destructive to drivers around them, etc...

This is not a thread bashing people who drink alcohol, but I'm wondering if there are any people here who has had success with women without having the need to drink alcohol socially with them? I can't go to bars because I would look out of place. Where can I meet women socially in my circumstance?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Moderation...try it.
lol........

I'm a similar person myself and have never touched alcohol or drugs and hopefully never will. Looking forward to replies of other members.
 

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Alcoholism is the result of drinking irresponsibly. Same with drunk driving and getting roofied at a party.

But if you're still set on not ever drinking then just light a joint. A lot of people, especially the bad babes, love to smoke.
 

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In 2014 I dated this chick, she was 17, wife material. It didn't work out because I was drinking, and the way she put it she knew plenty of men who didn't drink and didn't need it. So it's a plus that you don't drink, don't start, and stay away from people that do. Find a person that doesn't drink also, and you two will have plenty in common. Relax.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Alcoholism is the result of drinking irresponsibly. Same with drunk driving and getting roofied at a party.

But if you're still set on not ever drinking then just light a joint. A lot of people, especially the bad babes, love to smoke.
What if you don't wanna smoke anything either. Start chewing pot leaves? :D
 

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Club social blending
In a club setting, non alcohol beer works. Know a guy that drinks that.
Some type of water, seltzer, or plain soft drink on the rocks with lemon or lime in a drink glass blends in also.
 

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Alcoholism is the result of drinking irresponsibly. Same with drunk driving and getting roofied at a party.

But if you're still set on not ever drinking then just light a joint. A lot of people, especially the bad babes, love to smoke.
I used to smoke weed. I quit since October. I figure it was time to face reality, remain sober and become more clear minded.

Club social blending
In a club setting, non alcohol beer works. Know a guy that drinks that.
Some type of water, seltzer, or plain soft drink on the rocks with lemon or lime in a drink glass blends in also.
Maybe I'll look into this. Thanks.
 

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I'm not into drinking due to personal beliefs. I believe it poisons the mind and body. It's bad for your liver. Most broken homes comes from a result of alcoholism. It makes your mind unclear. Drunk drivers are self destructive to drivers around them, etc...

This is not a thread bashing people who drink alcohol, but I'm wondering if there are any people here who has had success with women without having the need to drink alcohol socially with them? I can't go to bars because I would look out of place. Where can I meet women socially in my circumstance?
You can still go to bars that have non-alcoholic drinks. Otherwise, coffee shops are good places to meet women.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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You can still go to bars that have non-alcoholic drinks. Otherwise, coffee shops are good places to meet women.
Are women receptive to be approached in coffee shops like how they are in bars, or at they more reclusive?
 

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I don't drink either, I drink sparkling water in bars.
Women usually come up to me asking me why I don't drink.
And they see me as a highly valueble man who has self respect, discipline and self control.
 

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Are women receptive to be approached in coffee shops like how they are in bars, or at they more reclusive?
No. You're a stranger. Take a dance class, do speed dating, or meet women online.

I don't drink either, I drink sparkling water in bars.
Women usually come up to me asking me why I don't drink.
And they see me as a highly valueble man who has self respect, discipline and self control.
Yea ok. I run into a few of those types of women who try to tell me drinking is bad. It's usually a dead giveaway that someone in their family was negatively impacted by alcohol.

People are free to live their lives however they want, but why pass moral judgments on others?
 

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Are women receptive to be approached in coffee shops like how they are in bars, or at they more reclusive?
As a general rule, women are more receptive and friendlier when under the influence in a bar. It's a better social setting.
 
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Are women receptive to be approached in coffee shops like how they are in bars, or at they more reclusive?
Your approach needs to be different, more socially attuned. The suggestion about dance classes, yoga, etc. is good.
 

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Just get out! Chicks are everywhere!
 

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You can also try using meetup.com.
 

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This is not a thread bashing people who drink alcohol, but I'm wondering if there are any people here who has had success with women without having the need to drink alcohol socially with them? I can't go to bars because I would look out of place
That's your own limitation. I don't drink and I've never felt uncomfortable in bars. Just order tonic water. If you don't worry, nobody else will.
 

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It's a matter of being comfortable in your own skin and confident with who you are and what you're about....

If anyone has never gone out stone cold sober (i.e. just you and your energy) I would highly recommend a period of
abstinence as your very own social experiment.

It's a real good test of where your inner game is at.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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