"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I'm not going to be bothered with women until I look "older".

thewarrior

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Why?

I'm 25 years old and people still think I'm 19/20. I'm currently working at an organization as a consultant. Every time I meet someone new, I get the same response.

Usually a young, attractive chick (twenties) doesn't give me the time of the day.

An older, fat, ugly women will vocally say something like "how old are you?" or "you look like a kid".

Men usually look for my ID badge.

It's ****ing annoying and don't understand what it is about my looks that I look so young. I'm 5'10'' and 135lbs. Can that be it? I can't grow a beard but my mustache and chin hair grows thick. I only drank about 5 alcoholic beverages in my life, never did drugs, and rarely partied all night until 2 in the morning in my life. Can that be it?

I do know females probably find me attractive, but more in the "he's cute but too young". Only if they knew I was twenty-five. Older women give me more IOIs than females my age.

Looking young for a man (at my age) is NOT a good thing. If I look young at 40, then it IS a good thing.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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DavenJuan

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first of all, your thread title is retarded. what, because you look "young" your calling off all women..??

before you do that, go hang outside a highschool, female school teachers always seem to like there boy students.

in all seriousness, its probably MORESO how you carry yourself than anything.

yeah, sure your facial features play a role in how old you look. but how you dress, how you act and mannerisms can age you older or younger
 

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Grow some facial hair. If its patchy, let it keep growing it will grow in slowly.

And put on some weight. Dude at 135lbs you probably look like a bag of antlers.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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shaunuk

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Yeah you're pretty light for a 25 year old guy, start gaining some weight (in the form of muscle but a little fat with it is ok). There's a chance you look physically unimposing, you want to fix that. :)

Let your facial hair grow out for a while, see what it looks like after 3 months.
 

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I have a friend who's my age and.......
 

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t's ****ing annoying and don't understand what it is about my looks that I look so young. I'm 5'10'' and 135lbs. Can that be it? I can't grow a beard but my mustache and chin hair grows thick. I only drank about 5 alcoholic beverages in my life, never did drugs, and rarely partied all night until 2 in the morning in my life. Can that be it?

Yes and yes
 

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You have to be a baby faced devil. You have to get some mischief in your eyes and some playfulness in your demenaor. You have to remove the stick from your ass and have some fun and stop making excuses. Baby face at 25, you can bang chicks from 18 on above.

Your issue is confidence and experience, go and get some experience and you'll gain some confidence. Don't have confidence? Fake like you do until you get it for real. Good Luck
 

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put on some weight..at your height you should weigh 160 to at least look like you feed yourself.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Whats wrong with 18yrs old girls?
Anyway im sure there will be some milf who would be interested in you,about the rest just do what most of the guys suggested you and you will be fine. ;)
 

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Can someone please tell me what I can eat that will definitely put some weight on me? I don't care if I eat the same meal 6 times per day. Should I eat a bunch of noodles (pasta) and meat throughout the day? I want to gain visible weight as fast as possible!!

I want to eat something that's cheap, tasty, and I don't have to put much thought into it.
 

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DavenJuan said:
yeah, sure your facial features play a role in how old you look. but how you dress, how you act and mannerisms can age you older or younger
Let's say my mannerisms and the way I dress is appropriate for someone my age...what else?
 

thewarrior

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shaunuk said:
is ok)
There's a chance you look physically unimposing, you want to fix that. :)
I'm so sick and tired of hearing fat people complain about their weight issues.

I have to spend tons of money and put in huge amounts of time and energy to eat eat eat!

I have it worse.



So, let me get this straight...thin guys don't get as many women as bigger guys????? It's not like I'm bony with no muscle. I'm very muscular.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Alle_Gory said:
And put on some weight. Dude at 135lbs you probably look like a bag of antlers.
hahahahaahahahahahah
 

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I'm kinda the same way, actually exactly the same, except I can grow facial hair (though I keep it shaved, habit from when I was a army officer) and I've drank more than 5 drinks (lol). But though I'm 25 ppl think I'm 17-19, which sucks sometimes. Like last week I went into a car dealer and they wouldn't give me the time of day because they didn't think I was serious. But whatever, you can still get girls looking young, just go for younger girls, works for me (though I prefer 18-19 year old girls anyways).
 

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thewarrior said:
Can someone please tell me what I can eat that will definitely put some weight on me? I don't care if I eat the same meal 6 times per day. Should I eat a bunch of noodles (pasta) and meat throughout the day? I want to gain visible weight as fast as possible!!

I want to eat something that's cheap, tasty, and I don't have to put much thought into it.
Nuts and seeds. Peanuts don't count and stay away from cashews.

Examples:

- wallnuts
- pumpkin seeds (lots of nutrients)
- brazil nuts
- sunflower seeds
- hazelnuts
- almonds

raw is best, lots of calories from the fats and oils and lots of protein and minerals. a handful of nuts and seeds is like 300-400 calories. add this to what you currently eat.

that's a healthy way to bulk, if its not working you're going to need to hit up your local burger shack. try to stay way from gaining weight through sugars and refined carbs like white bread. its very bad for your body, especially since it fvcks up your insulin levels.
 

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Oh no, only younger girls are attracted to me :(((
So bang some 18 year olds you raging homosexual.

Hit the gym, eat big (see above) and get plenty sleep.
Shave the bumfluff off your face and buy some decent clothes.


Done.
 

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thewarrior said:
Why?

I'm 25 years old and people still think I'm 19/20. I'm currently working at an organization as a consultant. Every time I meet someone new, I get the same response.

Usually a young, attractive chick (twenties) doesn't give me the time of the day.

An older, fat, ugly women will vocally say something like "how old are you?" or "you look like a kid".

Men usually look for my ID badge.

It's ****ing annoying and don't understand what it is about my looks that I look so young. I'm 5'10'' and 135lbs. Can that be it? I can't grow a beard but my mustache and chin hair grows thick. I only drank about 5 alcoholic beverages in my life, never did drugs, and rarely partied all night until 2 in the morning in my life. Can that be it?

I do know females probably find me attractive, but more in the "he's cute but too young". Only if they knew I was twenty-five. Older women give me more IOIs than females my age.

Looking young for a man (at my age) is NOT a good thing. If I look young at 40, then it IS a good thing.
Man I feel like a broken record.

Dude, again, it DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU FEEL. You are too focused on yourself. You have to come to terms with yourself and then you wouldn't post these angry and upset threads. "Don't people know I'm 25? How dare they think I'm 20? Don't they know who I am? That's not sexy thinking, that's not James Bond thinking, that's not "make my knees weak" for a girl thinking, that's "woe is me" thinking.

People are trying to help you. They tell and see it like it is. If you give them something they like, they will respond. If you don't, no matter what you think of yourself, how good you are, how good your skills are, how sexy you are, how tall you are, how funny you are, they won't and you will continue to blame them for your shortcomings.

Thank you and good night.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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