I'm never going to get laid hanging with my current friends.

[ElStud]

Haha, tonight I realized I'm never gonna get laid hanging with my current friends. Admitted, it's fun hanging out with these guys, but as far as girls go, I'm never getting laid following around these guys. For instance tonight, my friends and I went to the apartments of these hotties from Ukraine. Now I always here from the 2 friends how much game they have with these Ukranian girls, but tonight they showed none of that and at this rate, it'll be a few monthes before they see that p*ssy if ever. Basically, Ikenna dude basically sat there, sometimes made lame comments and stuff. The Dave dude was the one mostly talking and even he was giving the one Ukranian girl a f*cking survey by simply asking question after question. I can also tell they're probably never gonna get with the girls, because they lie to the girls sometimes and the girls will figure that out(Dave guy told her he was 20, when he's really 18).

Let's add to the fact that these guys ALWAYS talk about hitting the clubs and stuff, but never do it. Like they'll always talk about going to the clubs and stuff, but it never happens. Even if we DO go somewhere with girls, these dudes are scared to talk to em or grind with em. For instance, tonight senior dinner, BUNCH OF GIRLS and dancing and you see these guys sitting on the sidelines. I did the smart thing and stopped following them around and just had fun.

I mean maybe it's not them, maybe it's me. Maybe I depend on them too much to get laid. Maybe I just need to stop depending on these dudes for fun so much. Maybe once I stop depending on these dudes for fun, I'll actually have a chance to get laid.

 

[oakraiderz2]

1. You suck at spelling.
2. Youre friends dont prevent you from getting dates and slamming chicks.
3. Youre kind of a tool.

 

[MikeYikes122]

First off, I'm not sure where the exotic country of "Ukrania" is, but this is SoSuave, not a geography bee so we'll let that one slide.

I've been in your situation many times. In fact, out of all my friends, two of them have legitimate game and only a couple others can hold their own when females are in our presence.

Either go out with your friends who have game or plan on being the leader at all times. What I mean by leader is, you have to take control and lead your friends by example. Be the guy who heads out to the dance floor and dances; be the guy who approaches the HB 9; be the dude takes control of the situation. Don't talk about doing these things, just do them.

When you're gaming chicks, don't pay attention to your friends and be concerned about what they're doing/saying. Be concerned with yourself because, if you have game, it will show and the chick you're talking to won't give a sh!t about your friends or any other dudes.

Every group of guy friends has a dude who gets all the girls. You have to become that guy. I'm him among my group of friends. It sounds like your group of friends needs someone to step up and fill that role.

There's a ton of pressure on that guy, but it's like they say, pressure can either burst pipes or it can make diamonds.

 

[Clarky]

More friends mate, find more friends. My best friend from childhood is still pretty poor with women, we have one friend who is a player and another whos getting there.

I will always hang out and chill with them but i have different friends for different activities. The first time i went to a club i went with somebody from my school who i was friendly with but we were no where near best mates, why did i go with him? becasue he can get QUALITY women.

I have gone on to meet other guys who are great in the clubs, when you get to a certain level you can then go with your less able friends, as you will be so used to getting girls that you do not feel a need to be with them. But starting out i believe you want to go with people who won't hold you back

 

[DonGorgon]

Friends do get in the way... hunting alone is best

 

[ElStud]

First off, I'm not sure where the exotic country of "Ukrania" is, but this is SoSuave, not a geography bee so we'll let that one slide.

I've been in your situation many times. In fact, out of all my friends, two of them have legitimate game and only a couple others can hold their own when females are in our presence.

Either go out with your friends who have game or plan on being the leader at all times. What I mean by leader is, you have to take control and lead your friends by example. Be the guy who heads out to the dance floor and dances; be the guy who approaches the HB 9; be the dude takes control of the situation. Don't talk about doing these things, just do them.

When you're gaming chicks, don't pay attention to your friends and be concerned about what they're doing/saying. Be concerned with yourself because, if you have game, it will show and the chick you're talking to won't give a sh!t about your friends or any other dudes.

Every group of guy friends has a dude who gets all the girls. You have to become that guy. I'm him among my group of friends. It sounds like your group of friends needs someone to step up and fill that role.

There's a ton of pressure on that guy, but it's like they say, pressure can either burst pipes or it can make diamonds.

This is actually good advice man. And overall I'm gonna stop depending on these guys. I WILL be the Alpha and dominate one of the group. First, I got to get my own car and stop depending on that loser for rides(He'll make the dumbest excuses too). That way, I got the car, I got the control I got the power. If I want to go somewhere I can go. I don't got to be like "Hey, Ikenna man let's do this or that!" I can just go and not give a f*ck what those dudes think.

And yeah, I spelt it wrong it's "Ukraine".

 

[DJDamage]

This is actually good advice man. And overall I'm gonna stop depending on these guys. I WILL be the Alpha and dominate one of the group. First, I got to get my own car and stop depending on that loser for rides(He'll make the dumbest excuses too). That way, I got the car, I got the control I got the power. If I want to go somewhere I can go. I don't got to be like "Hey, Ikenna man let's do this or that!" I can just go and not give a f*ck what those dudes think.

Wow some friend you are.

All I hear you is dissing your friends on here and they don't deserve a friend like you. If you dislike them so much then cut ties off today. But you won't because you are still piggybacking them until you feel that they are not serving any valuable purpose. The irony is that you call one of your friend's a loser for giving you a ride because he is generous due to the fact that you don't have a ride, and yet you do nothing for him so what does that make you?

Oh and please don't blame you friends for your lack of game. A good player could still pick up chicks even if he is followed around by the likes of Steve Urkel and Screetch.

 

[SharinganUser]

I was going to post something else, but I had to retract it because after rereading the post, I have to say I agree with DJDamage.

 

[ElStud]

I think you need to find some mates that have good energy and are not "trying" to hook up with chicks or braging about how much game they have. Honestly, the guys that I know that are good with women are like mad scientists. They don't give a crap about what others think (unless it's positive).

Hang out with people that have a good vibe going.

Haha maybe. Really though a lot of times when they ask me to go they say "There's gonna be a lot of girls and twerk" there as a way to motivate me. Sometimes it's true, sometimes it's not. I know if I got my OWN car, I would go to the club when I say I would go to the club, not like these guys.

 

[SharinganUser]

Haha maybe. Really though a lot of times when they ask me to go they say "There's gonna be a lot of girls and twerk" there as a way to motivate me. Sometimes it's true, sometimes it's not. I know if I got my OWN car, I would go to the club when I say I would go to the club, not like these guys.

Why do you keep slaming your friends? I've gone to countless places on my own. One time I went to a bar street with some friends and we all ended up going to different bars and meeting up at the end of the night.

Also, if going to the club is the only reason you want to buy a car, I would seriously consider investing your money else where. Unless you are really rich, no one is really going to see it much less be impressed by it at the clubs.

My advice, save your money and split on a taxi. I hate driving to clubs, and when I do, I get rid of my car keys any way that I can.

 

[ElStud]

Why do you keep slaming your friends? I've gone to countless places on my own. One time I went to a bar street with some friends and we all ended up going to different bars and meeting up at the end of the night.

Also, if going to the club is the only reason you want to buy a car, I would seriously consider investing your money else where. Unless you are really rich, no one is really going to see it much less be impressed by it at the clubs.

My advice, save your money and split on a taxi. I hate driving to clubs, and when I do, I get rid of my car keys any way that I can.

lol I'm not getting it to impress anyone, but so I can go places without having to call these guys up or just go alone if I want to. The biggest reason is I live in the suburbs and there aren't any taxis or buses nearby.

 

[SharinganUser]

Open your phone book, I bet there is a taxi service, if not, then you have a great business venture to consider.

 

[SickAgain]

Maybe you're stopping your friends from getting laid.

 

[Warrior74]

your friends are a crutch and a weak spot. you probably deep down think you are just like them. You want them to be the way you want yourself to be. Your afraid that girls will see you in a way that is less then stellar. But you are NOT your friends. You are you. You have to like your friends for who they are, not because they are doing what you want them to be.

I know because I went thru the same thing in my becoming a "dj" or whatever this learning process is. As you learn you change...and as you change you see your friends and realationships in a new light. You realise how many things your friends did that was salting your game, but you also realise your own mistakes as well. You try to tell your friends or change them and it doesn't work. Each man has to change on his own.

You have to learn to accept them for who they are. Enjoy their company, do the things you enjoy doing with them, and then go do your own thing.

I pissed off a friend of mine last weekend because he hates clubs, he hates rap music and club music, he refuses to go out. I tried to push him to go out with us. He got so upset he started shouting and punching his car. I said some mean things about his behavior being childish and how he was just scared of girls. Now it may have been true, but it wasn't my place to say it. I should have just accepted that the things I wanted to do was not gonna work for him. I ended up going to the club by myself and having a ball and getting a few phone numbers and a kiss close. After that night, I go out alone and hang with my boys in my spare time.

 

[MikeYikes122]

I agree that he should lay off his friends a little bit and quit ripping them on here, but I also think some of you guys are forgetting he is in high school. High school is a very unique place when it comes to picking up girls because social proof matters probably more than anything else. Even when I go back to my hometown and hang out with my friends, I never am able to do very well with chicks I went to high school with because, six or seven years ago, I was a completely different person with different friends, who still have the same level of social proof. It used to puzzle me and really bother me that girls I went to H.S. with weren't attracted to me, but I eventually realized that their lack of attraction is because they still see me as having the same level as social proof that I had in high school. The fact that I'm always with my old friends doesn't help my cause much, either.

Don't get me wrong. I wasn't a loser or anything in high school. In the final two years, I was actually kind of popular. But I didn't run around with a group of friends who were known for getting the popular chicks. Me and each of my friends managed to attract one or two of the really hot popular girls during high school, but that was it really.

I've told ElStud this before and I will tell it to him again. His biggest issue is that he needs to get out of high school and go to college. Yeah, he has a problem with following through with these chicks who he approaches and posts FRs about, but I have a feeling even if he did call them, they'd flake on him or just not pick up their phone. I have a good feeling he has absolutely no social proof at his school, and the girls sense that immediately when they're in his presence. This is why he only has success with freshmen - who naturally perceive him as having more social proof because he is a senior. I also am pretty sure that he over-approaches the girls at his school, and this is really hurting his social proof as well. Too much of a good thing can be harmful, and that is the case with approaching at a high school.

So ElStud, my advice to you is to get a summer job somewhere where you can meet some girls who go to a different school. You will have a completely clean slate with them, and they will have no preconceived notions about you or your friends. Social proof will no longer be an issue for you in this situation. If you can't get a summer job, you're just going to have to wait till college before you can game some chicks, or you're going to have to call some of these freshmen who you've number closed.

College has the potential to be great for you, though. Take this summer and really study up on the game. Make posts, learn from people on this board, and above all don't fight or argue with other posters. Call some of these freshmen up and get some practice with them. I think that would be a phenomenal idea. Going out with a freshman and kiss closing her would be like learning the game with training wheels on. And if you're friends dog on you for dating a freshman, fvck them. They're the ones sitting at home on a Friday night playing XBox while you're the guy who is hanging out with a female. How are they better than you?

I went to college at a state school where tons of people from my hometown also went. There, I dated a lot of girls who graduated from neighboring high schools in my hometown. All of them were hot and really prissy, and most of the time they all ended up being friends with each other. I never understood why this was until I opened up a friend's high school yearbook (he went to a different high school), and I realized I was dating or had dated all the really hot, popular girls from his high school.

It's kind of crazy how stuff works out in high school, but social proof is mainly what girls are looking at in guys. You and your friends' biggest issue is probably that none of you have any of it. Your lack of success doesn't have much to do with your friends' lack of game or the fact that you don't have a car.

 

[Stripes]

Elstud, You know what you gotta do, i encourage your attitude and the process of changing your actions and situation, while being slammed for your views. Haha
As if friends truely are not ones worst enemy.
I love enemies and wish it were easier to ****in make em.
Your all alone and always will be, with or without friends or girls.
Some one mentioned that they think your friends are a crutch and a weak spot. The irony is people only speak for themselves. Everyone could get alot further taking their own advice. Wouldn't it be delightful if you could find a person to talk to on this thread who was on the same page as you?

 

[Stripes]

Ok, How would I know. This is just my views, so go on and slam em who ever. it WORKS well for me. And to anyone putting me down instead of bringing me up or over. What is and was your opinion to me before and after you talked ****.

 

[Rhoto]

Why are you equating your friends personalities and habits to your ability to have sex with women? Or rather, why are you blaming others for something, that they have abso-fvcking-lutely nothing to do with?

Unless they're coming up to women and saying "Hey ElStud, remember how you got the clap from the hooker in Vegas?! Lolcats!" or something of that nature, you are your own hinderence.

A female who harbors legitimate attraction/admiration for you won't really care for your friends "Who talk about spiting game" or any of that childish bullsh*t.

If your friends are ****blocking, then go out with new ones, or better yet alone. You learn A LOT by soloing the night scene. But don't blame them for your perceived shortcomings, you sound like a whiny biitch.

 

[young_gun]

I don't understand why you would throw your friends under the bus like that. Some of my friends don't do that well with girls, but I don't throw them under the bus like your whiny ass.

Are you sure it's your friends that are preventing you from getting laid? Surely there has been at least one opportunity recently where you've been by yourself and you could have made an approach. But, you still haven't gotten laid, and now you're trying to blame it on the friends you hang out with.

I don't understand this whole "gossip club" you have going, like we care who did this, who said that. Maybe the the reason you can't get girls is because you ARE one.

 

[HandyAndy]

Find friends that are into pickup, thats what I did, we have fun all the time