"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I'm more AFC then I thought I was apparently

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this is going to be kind of long so bear with me.

the reality hit me like a ton of bricks recently. i'm more afc then i thought i was. that's gotta be the problem with my lack of success lately. i'm not going to lie, i do have my moments of dj, but 90% of the time i think i'm being viewed as an afc by women, and even guys at times. something i'm doing, something i'm giving off is making me stand out in ways i don't want to stand out. here are a few examples i can give that best describe what i'm getting at.

you ever hear the term used by people to describe a girl, "town wh*re"? you know, the kind of girl that apprently EVERYONE has been with....except me? she is doing a new guy every weekend. she's always riding some random dude's c0ck. not mine though. i've tried to game these girls to no avail. i just don't have the game to be "that guy" she randomly sleeps with one night or several nights or whatever. nope, i'm the guy she has fun with one night(seemingly) and you think you're getting somewhere, but in reality you're going nowhere with her. yeah, she'll text you every now and then, but you never hangout or if you do ask her to she's always giving you some excuse or blows it off completely as if you never even mentioned hanging out to her. yet, next weekend she's got some random guy's c0ck in her mouth, and he put in the time of maybe a few hours. the real kicker is when i see these guys, they're nothing what i expected! looks wise i know i can compete with them, hell i can beat most of them on looks alone. doesn't matter though cause theyre getting it and i'm not. why can't i get the town wh*re to sleep with me? talk about a hit to the ol' ego. you'd think gaming them would be an easy lay, it's not. it's rather hard, at least in my experience. i've never been the type of guy that had one night stands alot. i can count on one hand how many i've had in the course of my life. it's sad really. pathetic is more like it. so what's the secret to sleeping with these seemingly easy girls?

i recently signed up with match.com to meet more women, just to see if it would increase my chances. it started out well, very well acctually. i would email a girl, any girl, she'd email me back, we'd exchange a few emails and then bam! she's never to be heard from again. i ask for her number, try to keep the emailing to a minimum and set up a date as quickly as possible only to be shot down, or ignored about my request. i ask them for facebook and i get excuses such as "i dont have facebook"(in this day and age? yeah right, come on lady). i had one date on there. it sucked. this girl would text me all day everyday, talk on the phone blah blah blah. date comes and things seem to be going well then all of a sudden she's tired and wants to go home. ok? well then i get the i dont kiss on first dates line. ha! yeah i bet you dont. so i just walk off and leave her standing there and shes asks "where are you going? you arent going to tell me bye?" and i said "nope, i'm going to find a girl that DOES kiss on first dates. have a nice night". well now i can't get hardly ANY women to write me back on there. it's weird, it's like a nasty rumor is spreading throughout match.com about me to not talk to this guy.lol whatever, their loss not mine. i used to be pretty successful with online dating, but not so much anymore for some reason.

i had this cute waitress the other night. i decided to go the old afc route and leave her a note saying "let's go have a beer sometime, heres my number". by golly it worked! she texted me the next day with maybe. maybe? i asked her what do i have to do to get that maybe turned into a yes, and ask her when shes free. shes busy all week and said "youll think of something". yeah, not gonna waste my time with that, bye. oh she did ask me to tell her about myself, but i reasponded with "well i must have made a good first impression on you because you did text me. if you want to get to know me, go have that beer with me sometime." she didnt respond. i thought it was a good response myself. i don't have time to pass some stupid sh!t test over asking a girl out for a beer.

i was working out at the gym with my trainer yesterday, minding my own business joking around with him. we were doing some hard stuff, and he was like how many was that? and i said 4, and he was like 4?! you got to get to 15!. just joking around about me slacking off, that type of stuff. this guy who walks around thinking he's all that, you can just tell he's that type. big muscular upper body, looks at himself in the mirror alot, but never worked out legs a day in his life. it was weird looking to say the least. anyways he makes some smart comment to me, but i didnt say anything to him. it's a gym, im busy working out with my trainer, i'm not there trying to get into a fight with some dude. but i mean, what am i giving off that made him think i wasnt an alhpa male? what made him think he could say something smart to me and i wouldnt get up and bust him in his face? this is the same type of guy that would come up to me and a girl in the bar and "want to be friends".

anyways, i just dont know what im doing wrong or how to correct it. i think i'm a great catch but i must not be selling myself as well as i need to be. i dont know how to do that any better. i'm not ugly, i have a great job, i'm in dang good shape, so what gives?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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After reading this post i think youre not a little afc, youre the source of afc....
 

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Just reading your post gave me a headache. Are you this wordy with women?
 

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GetOveIT said:
After reading this post i think youre not a little afc, youre the source of afc....

how? care to explain?
 

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2crudedudes said:
Just reading your post gave me a headache. Are you this wordy with women?

what do you mean? i had to type out my problem and give details to hopefully figure out the problem, right? do i talk women's ears off? no.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Robert28 said:
what do you mean? i had to type out my problem and give details to hopefully figure out the problem, right? do i talk women's ears off? no.
Im not blaming you from posting your problem, this is exactly the kind of forum that will help you, im saying that when afc do apear on a diccionary you will have a place in it....
 

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GetOveIT said:
Im not blaming you from posting your problem, this is exactly the kind of forum that will help you, im saying that when afc do apear on a diccionary you will have a place in it....

well sh!t thats not good. so what am i doing wrong?
 

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Robert28 said:
well sh!t thats not good. so what am i doing wrong?
Youre doing everything wrong.

1º - Youre giving power.
2º - Still waiting for a woman to give something to you [ probably you want sex but you still appear as a friend not as a lover ]
3º - Confidence
4º - Confidence
5º - Confidence

Are you getting the gist of it?

I bet someone will point plenty of links that you didnt read.
 

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You asked for an opinion, so I'm gonna give it to you straight. In another post, you basically bragged about beating up some "redneck" who was arguing with his GF. You clearly had no qualms picking a fight with a smaller/weaker guy because he pushed his GF against your truck. Yet, when a big muscular guy walks in and says something "smart", you are suddenly all about finding excuses to avoid confrontation ("it's a gym, im busy working out with my trainer, i'm not there trying to get into a fight with some dude"). This is not alpha male behavior. In fact, bullying the weak and cowering in front of the strong is typical cowardly, insecure beta male behavior and people of both sexes pick up on that. Being an alpha male is not about kicking some redneck in the chest; it's about projecting an aura of confidence and control.

I know your type. You are the guy who tries very hard to act tough but it's all a facade to cover deep-rooted insecurities. You can try putting on a tough guy front all you want but it won't turn you into an alpha male.
 

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InternalCombustion said:
You asked for an opinion, so I'm gonna give it to you straight. In another post, you basically bragged about beating up some "redneck" who was arguing with his GF. You clearly had no qualms picking a fight with a smaller/weaker guy because he pushed his GF against your truck. Yet, when a big muscular guy walks in and says something "smart", you are suddenly all about finding excuses to avoid confrontation ("it's a gym, im busy working out with my trainer, i'm not there trying to get into a fight with some dude"). This is not alpha male behavior. In fact, bullying the weak and cowering in front of the strong is typical cowardly, insecure beta male behavior and people of both sexes pick up on that. Being an alpha male is not about kicking some redneck in the chest; it's about projecting an aura of confidence and control.

I know your type. You are the guy who tries very hard to act tough but it's all a facade to cover deep-rooted insecurities. You can try putting on a tough guy front all you want but it won't turn in into an alpha male.

you know my type? so defending my personal property but not starting a fight with some dude because he made a smart comment to me is cowardly and afc? who ever said i walk around with my chest stuck out looking for some weaker guy to beat up on? so not starting a fight in the gym isnt having control and shrugging it off when me fighting him wouldnt solve anthing? whats this got to do with getting girls? are you saying you want me to go smash in some dudes face thats with a girl that rejected me to show my alpha maleness?lol im not the type of guy that goes looking for fights, i avoid them at all costs, but im also the quiet guy in the corner you dont want to go mess with. im not a ra ra type of guy that has to be loud to get attention, i dont want attention if i have to make myself look like an ass to get it. please tell me the deep rooted insecurites that i have?

i never bragged about throwing him to the ground. the point of the post was how stupid some women act and stay with guys like that, and the fact that she thought i was defending her when i wasnt and proceeded to hit me.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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hey man honestly if I were you, i would just tell her "Hey, let's ****" or "hey I want to **** you. Let's do it". I mean, this girl is town wh0re so who gives shyt? it seems like you're wasting time. So charge in or just let it go. man's time is valuable.
 

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Robert28 said:
you know my type? so defending my personal property but not starting a fight with some dude because he made a smart comment to me is cowardly and afc?
First of all, you weren't "defending" you personal property; the damage was already done. You beat that guy up because you were pissed off, which I guess is understandable. However, you were also pissed off when the big muscular guy insulted you, yet you dared not say anything back or start a fight. Like I said, this is typical beta male behavior and people can sense those beta vibes.

Second, you sounded like you were bragging in the other post, even though you say you weren't. And bragging about beating up a weaker man does not exactly scream "alpha", even if it's something you had to do to defend yourself or your property.

Robert28 said:
whats this got to do with getting girls?
You asked: "but i mean, what am i giving off that made him think i wasnt an alhpa male? what made him think he could say something smart to me and i wouldnt get up and bust him in his face?"

If a man can sense that you are not alpha, so can a girl (in fact, women have much better instincts, which somewhat compensate for their lack of analytical brainpower). What I'm telling you is that you are sending off beta vibes and other people are picking up on them. That's why you get smart ass comments from guys at the gym. And that's why the town ho does not want to fvck you.

I'm not saying all this to insult you, I'm just trying to make you understand the problem. As I said, you can't fake being an alpha male. Being an alpha is a state of mind and once you reach it, you start sending off signals that other people can subconsciously pick up. Call it an aura or a sixth sense or whatever but it's a real phenomenon. It's like when you meet someone who is genuinely friendly, positive and upbeat and you can instantly sense that he is not faking it (in contrast to the customer service/saleperson types with their fake smiles and phony politeness). Same deal with real alpha males vs. wannabes.
 
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