"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Hi!
I have read of any kind articles and recived so many tips etc, and I have followed these tips too. But nothing changes. I have been indifferent and mind my own business, but girls don't approach me. I have been funny and ****y, but women still leaves with other men. I'm not sickeningly handsome, but i'm not ugly too. Above the avarage i'd say.
One thing I know for sure what I'm doing wrong. I'm not getting physical and I don't drive women crazy.

Right now I have two girls among whom to choose, but I think I've waited too long and fell into friendzone already.

I don't understand when is the right time, when I may touch her.
Please help.

Sorry for my bad english.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Im just 22, so i dont have 30years of practice. But in my experience the longer you wait with touching her the more awkward it will be(for you, for her, for those who see it). Do it with boldness.
 

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I problaly have to agree : ) But when is the exact moment? When I approach girl and immediately begin touching, I'm going to jail and when I wait too long, I sleep off my opportunity.
When is touching inappropriate and when it's normal? Where is the limit?
 

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rändaja said:
I problaly have to agree : ) But when is the exact moment? When I approach girl and immediately begin touching, I'm going to jail and when I wait too long, I sleep off my opportunity.
When is touching inappropriate and when it's normal? Where is the limit?

God!.... :D You stress too much. You wont go to jail. If you are in a club or at a party then the sooner is the better.
When you two are just getting to know each other, talking ...thats a different thing ...dont hurry then. And dont do the "Put your arm around her and say: Hey, whats the matter?" stuff. ...that is terrible. There are better ways to touch her.
When i first kissed a girl i waited about one hour more than i should,
but we had a good conversation so it was OK. Now i know that when im out with a girl and im thinking "It would be good to kiss her..." then she is probably thinking "Will he kiss me or what?".
Practice.
 

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Ok. Thanks. : D But do you have any good examples or tricks when I can touch her without being "pusher" or desperate?
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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rändaja said:
Ok. Thanks. : D But do you have any good examples or tricks when I can touch her without being "pusher" or desperate?
When you first see her, greet her with a big hug.

When you're walking into a building, hold the door, and guide her in by touching her back.

If you have an exciting story to tell, grab her wrist and say, "You've got to hear this!!"

You and your date are walking down the sidewalk and stuck behind some slow people....Grab your date by the hand and usher her around those slow bast*rds.

It's nothing too desperate and creepy. But it gets you comfortable with the idea of touching your girl.

Once you develop a nice positive energy about yourself, you can pretty much do whatever you want. But right now, I'll start you off slow with this stuff.
 

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Mantis Toboggan said:
When you first see her, greet her with a big hug.

When you're walking into a building, hold the door, and guide her in by touching her back.

If you have an exciting story to tell, grab her wrist and say, "You've got to hear this!!"

You and your date are walking down the sidewalk and stuck behind some slow people....Grab your date by the hand and usher her around those slow bast*rds.

It's nothing too desperate and creepy. But it gets you comfortable with the idea of touching your girl.

Once you develop a nice positive energy about yourself, you can pretty much do whatever you want. But right now, I'll start you off slow with this stuff.
I agree. ...except with this: If you have an exciting story to tell, grab her wrist and say, "You've got to hear this!!"
For me thats girlish.
We could list here 1000 or more tips, but i think its better to keep this in mind:

1. Be familiar with touching, dont be afraid, girls like to be touched:)D).
2. If you think you shoul touch her, then you should. Dont think about it.
3. Dont be afraid... if she asks you why did you do that?, you say: "Just like that."
4. Watch how the girls are touching each other when talking, when doing stuff together. ....And dont do that!! Dont copy that.
5. Practice. By the time it will be fun, rather than something to be afraid of.
 

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Alien said:
I agree. ...except with this: If you have an exciting story to tell, grab her wrist and say, "You've got to hear this!!"
For me thats girlish.
Yeah it's hard to explain across a keyboard. I guess my point was: I know when I have a girl wrapped up in an engaging story. So during those moments, I take the opportunity to throw in some kino.

5. Practice. By the time it will be fun, rather than something to be afraid of.

That's the main thing. Practice. Try and fail. This guy's gotta lose the "When should I touch" questions, and just do it. He'll take his bumps along the way just like the rest of us.
 

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radaja,

Don't rush it..Touching and other things come with time..

The first thing you need work on is talking to them..
 

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Wow. So many answers in short time. Thanks. : )
Talking is my thing, but closing isn't.

Thank you again all of you. Thread closed. : )
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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