I'm doing something very wrong

[rändaja]

Hi!
I have read of any kind articles and recived so many tips etc, and I have followed these tips too. But nothing changes. I have been indifferent and mind my own business, but girls don't approach me. I have been funny and ****y, but women still leaves with other men. I'm not sickeningly handsome, but i'm not ugly too. Above the avarage i'd say.
One thing I know for sure what I'm doing wrong. I'm not getting physical and I don't drive women crazy.

Right now I have two girls among whom to choose, but I think I've waited too long and fell into friendzone already.

I don't understand when is the right time, when I may touch her.
Please help.

Sorry for my bad english.

 

[Alien]

Im just 22, so i dont have 30years of practice. But in my experience the longer you wait with touching her the more awkward it will be(for you, for her, for those who see it). Do it with boldness.

 

[rändaja]

I problaly have to agree : ) But when is the exact moment? When I approach girl and immediately begin touching, I'm going to jail and when I wait too long, I sleep off my opportunity.
When is touching inappropriate and when it's normal? Where is the limit?

 

[Alien]

I problaly have to agree : ) But when is the exact moment? When I approach girl and immediately begin touching, I'm going to jail and when I wait too long, I sleep off my opportunity.
When is touching inappropriate and when it's normal? Where is the limit?

God!.... You stress too much. You wont go to jail. If you are in a club or at a party then the sooner is the better.
When you two are just getting to know each other, talking ...thats a different thing ...dont hurry then. And dont do the "Put your arm around her and say: Hey, whats the matter?" stuff. ...that is terrible. There are better ways to touch her.
When i first kissed a girl i waited about one hour more than i should,
but we had a good conversation so it was OK. Now i know that when im out with a girl and im thinking "It would be good to kiss her..." then she is probably thinking "Will he kiss me or what?".
Practice.

 

[rändaja]

Ok. Thanks. : D But do you have any good examples or tricks when I can touch her without being "pusher" or desperate?

 

[Mantis Toboggan]

Ok. Thanks. : D But do you have any good examples or tricks when I can touch her without being "pusher" or desperate?

When you first see her, greet her with a big hug.

When you're walking into a building, hold the door, and guide her in by touching her back.

If you have an exciting story to tell, grab her wrist and say, "You've got to hear this!!"

You and your date are walking down the sidewalk and stuck behind some slow people....Grab your date by the hand and usher her around those slow bast*rds.

It's nothing too desperate and creepy. But it gets you comfortable with the idea of touching your girl.

Once you develop a nice positive energy about yourself, you can pretty much do whatever you want. But right now, I'll start you off slow with this stuff.

 

[Alien]

When you first see her, greet her with a big hug.

When you're walking into a building, hold the door, and guide her in by touching her back.

If you have an exciting story to tell, grab her wrist and say, "You've got to hear this!!"

You and your date are walking down the sidewalk and stuck behind some slow people....Grab your date by the hand and usher her around those slow bast*rds.

It's nothing too desperate and creepy. But it gets you comfortable with the idea of touching your girl.

Once you develop a nice positive energy about yourself, you can pretty much do whatever you want. But right now, I'll start you off slow with this stuff.

I agree. ...except with this: If you have an exciting story to tell, grab her wrist and say, "You've got to hear this!!"
For me thats girlish.
We could list here 1000 or more tips, but i think its better to keep this in mind:

1. Be familiar with touching, dont be afraid, girls like to be touchedD).
2. If you think you shoul touch her, then you should. Dont think about it.
3. Dont be afraid... if she asks you why did you do that?, you say: "Just like that."
4. Watch how the girls are touching each other when talking, when doing stuff together. ....And dont do that!! Dont copy that.
5. Practice. By the time it will be fun, rather than something to be afraid of.

 

[Mantis Toboggan]

I agree. ...except with this: If you have an exciting story to tell, grab her wrist and say, "You've got to hear this!!"
For me thats girlish.

Yeah it's hard to explain across a keyboard. I guess my point was: I know when I have a girl wrapped up in an engaging story. So during those moments, I take the opportunity to throw in some kino.

5. Practice. By the time it will be fun, rather than something to be afraid of.

That's the main thing. Practice. Try and fail. This guy's gotta lose the "When should I touch" questions, and just do it. He'll take his bumps along the way just like the rest of us.

 

[cavedweller]

radaja,

Don't rush it..Touching and other things come with time..

The first thing you need work on is talking to them..

 

[rändaja]

Wow. So many answers in short time. Thanks. : )
Talking is my thing, but closing isn't.

Thank you again all of you. Thread closed. : )