"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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She probably likes you, your friend, and a dozen other dudes. Which is fine, if you're just looking for some fun.

I definitely wouldn't pursue this type of girl in hopes of a real relationship. She sounds like the classic suburban drunk-party-makeout-girl.
 
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She not really like that, my friend actually told me before the concert that he was gonna try and hook up with her and that they were texting a lot beforehand, so thats why i didnt make a move
 
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The body hug thing means more to you than it does to her, chicks do weird shyt like that all the time and we interpret it as interest. Negative. I think it's too late for a sexual relationship. When too much time passes and you don't make your move in a given time frame, you get air dropped into the highly fenced Friend Zone by default.

She has to categorize you somehow, and when too much time goes by she sees it as no interest on your behalf, therefore, El Friend Zono for you.

Leave this one be, and mack other chicks for your own mental sanity.
 
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your friend escalated and made out with her and you didnt. your hesitation caused you to lose the girl. you should have been making out with her when she put her arms around you. you didnt make your move so she went to plan b, your other friend. he closed, you lost. make your move next time, cause remember, if you dont somebody else will.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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seriously, if you lost this girl just because you didn't make a move soon enough then she wasn't really that into you. no great loss really then, was it?
 
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Trust me i wouldve made a move its just that my friend told me he was tryna get with her earlier that day, so i stopped myself. What im asking is when theyre over do you think i could hookup w/ her
 
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jajaa1221 said:
Trust me i wouldve made a move its just that my friend told me he was tryna get with her earlier that day, so i stopped myself. What im asking is when theyre over do you think i could hookup w/ her
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why are you even asking this question if you know your 'friend' was looking to hook up with her?

bro's before ho's?
 
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Well things like this usually dont last long and i still want to hook up with her at a later time...
 
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Where is the confusing part?
You didn't make a move for months.
You had her arms around you.
Your sense of loyalty to your friend blocked you?
If its bros before Ho's then he won't cry if you close first.
You found another excuse not to close.

Basically you only want cos because your friend took her. Your story of months of inaction tell me this, unless you were just too pvssy to make a move all that time.

There is nothing confusing here.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Purefilth said:
Where is the confusing part?
You didn't make a move for months.
You had her arms around you.
Your sense of loyalty to your friend blocked you?
If its bros before Ho's then he won't cry if you close first.
You found another excuse not to close.

Basically you only want cos because your friend took her. Your story of months of inaction tell me this, unless you were just too pvssy to make a move all that time.

There is nothing confusing here.
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Huh yeah i guess youre right man... honestly though that is a **** move to just do that to a friend
 
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Bro's don't call dibs. If he does, then it's ho's before bro's for him.
 
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BeginningDJ said:
Bro's don't call dibs. If he does, then it's ho's before bro's for him.
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YES
 
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Purefilth said:
Where is the confusing part?
You didn't make a move for months.
You had her arms around you.
Your sense of loyalty to your friend blocked you?
If its bros before Ho's then he won't cry if you close first.
You found another excuse not to close.

Basically you only want cos because your friend took her. Your story of months of inaction tell me this, unless you were just too pvssy to make a move all that time.

There is nothing confusing here.
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Yesssir pure filth has it right. You hesitated therefore I'm sure you mastubaited that night buddy. Why didn't you turn around and hold her close and.make that move?! Now your here. Who cares your friend can't call dibs on a girl, they aren't property .... whoever can pull her and make the move is the one who gets her , not hy calling dibs on here lol. That's rediculous
 
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JohnChops said:
Yesssir pure filth has it right. You hesitated therefore I'm sure you mastubaited that night buddy. Why didn't you turn around and hold her close and.make that move?! Now your here. Who cares your friend can't call dibs on a girl, they aren't property .... whoever can pull her and make the move is the one who gets her , not hy calling dibs on here lol. That's rediculous
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Okay so I know I messed up and now I'm learning from my mistakes, so I'll just move on and keep mackin. But im wondering do you guys think i can still get with this chick later on?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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jajaa1221 said:
Okay so I know I messed up and now I'm learning from my mistakes, so I'll just move on and keep mackin. But im wondering do you guys think i can still get with this chick later on?
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Some of us would be able to jump in if we knew what the fvck you were talking about.
 
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The Gambler said:
Some of us would be able to jump in if we knew what the fvck you were talking about.
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Yeah... ahah my b, I just fixed it though.
 
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Yeah... ahah my b, I just fixed it though.
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No worries, had to give you a hard time... :D

How old are you guys? Not that it really matters, but I have noticed that girls in their late teens and early twenties often do exactly what you've said... Especially if they've tipped a few back, LOL. Don't get me wrong, lots of older women are "looking to party" just as much, but most have learned to be a bit more subtle.

Sometimes women are looking for Mr. Right, and sometimes they're just looking for "Mr. Right Now!" At a concert, with booze and God knows what else, she may have been looking for Mr. Right Now... But with that being said, I don't see the harm in contacting her if she's not still with your bud.

I think your odds may be slim with her, but I would rather know for sure than spend the next few weeks wondering "what if...."

There is nothing wrong with contacting her again. Do it with dignity and confidence, and if she's not interested or available, then it is what it is. But at least you'll know it.

Good luck, sir!

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The Gambler said:
No worries, had to give you a hard time... :D

How old are you guys? Not that it really matters, but I have noticed that girls in their late teens and early twenties often do exactly what you've said... Especially if they've tipped a few back, LOL. Don't get me wrong, lots of older women are "looking to party" just as much, but most have learned to be a bit more subtle.

Sometimes women are looking for Mr. Right, and sometimes they're just looking for "Mr. Right Now!" At a concert, with booze and God knows what else, she may have been looking for Mr. Right Now... But with that being said, I don't see the harm in contacting her if she's not still with your bud.

I think your odds may be slim with her, but I would rather know for sure than spend the next few weeks wondering "what if...."

There is nothing wrong with contacting her again. Do it with dignity and confidence, and if she's not interested or available, then it is what it is. But at least you'll know it.

Good luck, sir!

The Gambler
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to be honest every girl ive ever talked to in te 18 -22 range has no idea what they want and are all pretty much unintellgent little girls.
 
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