"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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I'm confused?

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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She probably likes you, your friend, and a dozen other dudes. Which is fine, if you're just looking for some fun.

I definitely wouldn't pursue this type of girl in hopes of a real relationship. She sounds like the classic suburban drunk-party-makeout-girl.
 
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She not really like that, my friend actually told me before the concert that he was gonna try and hook up with her and that they were texting a lot beforehand, so thats why i didnt make a move
 
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The body hug thing means more to you than it does to her, chicks do weird shyt like that all the time and we interpret it as interest. Negative. I think it's too late for a sexual relationship. When too much time passes and you don't make your move in a given time frame, you get air dropped into the highly fenced Friend Zone by default.

She has to categorize you somehow, and when too much time goes by she sees it as no interest on your behalf, therefore, El Friend Zono for you.

Leave this one be, and mack other chicks for your own mental sanity.
 
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your friend escalated and made out with her and you didnt. your hesitation caused you to lose the girl. you should have been making out with her when she put her arms around you. you didnt make your move so she went to plan b, your other friend. he closed, you lost. make your move next time, cause remember, if you dont somebody else will.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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seriously, if you lost this girl just because you didn't make a move soon enough then she wasn't really that into you. no great loss really then, was it?
 
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Trust me i wouldve made a move its just that my friend told me he was tryna get with her earlier that day, so i stopped myself. What im asking is when theyre over do you think i could hookup w/ her
 
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jajaa1221 said:
Trust me i wouldve made a move its just that my friend told me he was tryna get with her earlier that day, so i stopped myself. What im asking is when theyre over do you think i could hookup w/ her
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why are you even asking this question if you know your 'friend' was looking to hook up with her?

bro's before ho's?
 
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Well things like this usually dont last long and i still want to hook up with her at a later time...
 
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Where is the confusing part?
You didn't make a move for months.
You had her arms around you.
Your sense of loyalty to your friend blocked you?
If its bros before Ho's then he won't cry if you close first.
You found another excuse not to close.

Basically you only want cos because your friend took her. Your story of months of inaction tell me this, unless you were just too pvssy to make a move all that time.

There is nothing confusing here.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Purefilth said:
Where is the confusing part?
You didn't make a move for months.
You had her arms around you.
Your sense of loyalty to your friend blocked you?
If its bros before Ho's then he won't cry if you close first.
You found another excuse not to close.

Basically you only want cos because your friend took her. Your story of months of inaction tell me this, unless you were just too pvssy to make a move all that time.

There is nothing confusing here.
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Huh yeah i guess youre right man... honestly though that is a **** move to just do that to a friend
 
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Bro's don't call dibs. If he does, then it's ho's before bro's for him.
 
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BeginningDJ said:
Bro's don't call dibs. If he does, then it's ho's before bro's for him.
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YES
 
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Purefilth said:
Where is the confusing part?
You didn't make a move for months.
You had her arms around you.
Your sense of loyalty to your friend blocked you?
If its bros before Ho's then he won't cry if you close first.
You found another excuse not to close.

Basically you only want cos because your friend took her. Your story of months of inaction tell me this, unless you were just too pvssy to make a move all that time.

There is nothing confusing here.
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Yesssir pure filth has it right. You hesitated therefore I'm sure you mastubaited that night buddy. Why didn't you turn around and hold her close and.make that move?! Now your here. Who cares your friend can't call dibs on a girl, they aren't property .... whoever can pull her and make the move is the one who gets her , not hy calling dibs on here lol. That's rediculous
 
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JohnChops said:
Yesssir pure filth has it right. You hesitated therefore I'm sure you mastubaited that night buddy. Why didn't you turn around and hold her close and.make that move?! Now your here. Who cares your friend can't call dibs on a girl, they aren't property .... whoever can pull her and make the move is the one who gets her , not hy calling dibs on here lol. That's rediculous
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Okay so I know I messed up and now I'm learning from my mistakes, so I'll just move on and keep mackin. But im wondering do you guys think i can still get with this chick later on?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

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Okay so I know I messed up and now I'm learning from my mistakes, so I'll just move on and keep mackin. But im wondering do you guys think i can still get with this chick later on?
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Some of us would be able to jump in if we knew what the fvck you were talking about.
 
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The Gambler said:
Some of us would be able to jump in if we knew what the fvck you were talking about.
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Yeah... ahah my b, I just fixed it though.
 
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Yeah... ahah my b, I just fixed it though.
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No worries, had to give you a hard time... :D

How old are you guys? Not that it really matters, but I have noticed that girls in their late teens and early twenties often do exactly what you've said... Especially if they've tipped a few back, LOL. Don't get me wrong, lots of older women are "looking to party" just as much, but most have learned to be a bit more subtle.

Sometimes women are looking for Mr. Right, and sometimes they're just looking for "Mr. Right Now!" At a concert, with booze and God knows what else, she may have been looking for Mr. Right Now... But with that being said, I don't see the harm in contacting her if she's not still with your bud.

I think your odds may be slim with her, but I would rather know for sure than spend the next few weeks wondering "what if...."

There is nothing wrong with contacting her again. Do it with dignity and confidence, and if she's not interested or available, then it is what it is. But at least you'll know it.

Good luck, sir!

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The Gambler said:
No worries, had to give you a hard time... :D

How old are you guys? Not that it really matters, but I have noticed that girls in their late teens and early twenties often do exactly what you've said... Especially if they've tipped a few back, LOL. Don't get me wrong, lots of older women are "looking to party" just as much, but most have learned to be a bit more subtle.

Sometimes women are looking for Mr. Right, and sometimes they're just looking for "Mr. Right Now!" At a concert, with booze and God knows what else, she may have been looking for Mr. Right Now... But with that being said, I don't see the harm in contacting her if she's not still with your bud.

I think your odds may be slim with her, but I would rather know for sure than spend the next few weeks wondering "what if...."

There is nothing wrong with contacting her again. Do it with dignity and confidence, and if she's not interested or available, then it is what it is. But at least you'll know it.

Good luck, sir!

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to be honest every girl ive ever talked to in te 18 -22 range has no idea what they want and are all pretty much unintellgent little girls.
 
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