I know i dont make awesome conversation with women, but i'm working on it. Plus i talk to guys all the time and they think i'm prety cool, but to the main point. I'm having trouble being part of a group conversation. I can walk up to a bunch of friends with HBs, and be totally ignored. Or i can be having a 1 on 1 conversation with an HB and her friend comes by and i get totally left out. Do you guys have any advice?
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I'm Being left out in Group conversations. Any advice?
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Phazuka
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Be the one to instigate the conversation with the 3rd party. If you're 1 on 1 with some girl and her friend comes by, be the first to greet her GF and start the conversation with her. If you walk up to a bunch of guys with HB's, start talking to one of the guys GF's casually...introduce yourself to one person first, then introduce yourself to the rest.
Themanthatcan
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What I like to do, is focus on her friends instead of her, then go back to her occasionally. Make fun of her at the same time by saying "I bet -xyz friend- is alot better at _____ than you." or tell her how much cooler her friends are than her, playfully. Or maybe ask her friends to tell you an embarassing story about her. Just mix it up, you know.
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i've been in this situation before, and it is NOT a problem. don't be self conscious about it.Rint said:I know i dont make awesome conversation with women, but i'm working on it. Plus i talk to guys all the time and they think i'm prety cool, but to the main point. I'm having trouble being part of a group conversation. I can walk up to a bunch of friends with HBs, and be totally ignored. Or i can be having a 1 on 1 conversation with an HB and her friend comes by and i get totally left out. Do you guys have any advice?
sometimes during the course of a group convo, they'll switch to a topic with which you have no familiarity. don't try too hard to get involved, or you will look desperate. just sit back and wait for the right time to jump in.
you can jump in with a question, a change of topic, teasing someone.
but no matter what, don't feel like you have to have the thunder at all times, or you WILL look pathetic.
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afrojiggles
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:kick:Themanthatcan said:What I like to do, is focus on her friends instead of her, then go back to her occasionally. Make fun of her at the same time by saying "I bet -xyz friend- is alot better at _____ than you." or tell her how much cooler her friends are than her, playfully. Or maybe ask her friends to tell you an embarassing story about her. Just mix it up, you know.
Full Throttle
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A little trick I like to use is to go into the group, and then spit in all of their faces. It's a good social lubricant and really breaks the ice nicely. Start at the person to the left then work your way to the right.
This site is getting so many trolls now.Full Throttle said:A little trick I like to use is to go into the group, and then spit in all of their faces. It's a good social lubricant and really breaks the ice nicely. Start at the person to the left then work your way to the right.
Or maybe it's just the same, really sad ones with different names.
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I'm not trolling. I'm addressing these foolish, petty questions that people helplessly can't figure out themselves. Did you catch the social lubricant pun?Lust said:This site is getting so many trolls now.
Or maybe it's just the same, really sad ones with different names.
Maybe it isn't obvious to some people o great one. If u dont have any advice dont say anything go waste ur time doing something else.Full Throttle said:I'm not trolling. I'm addressing these foolish, petty questions that people helplessly can't figure out themselves. Did you catch the social lubricant pun?
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