On Bumble today had a couple people "like me" but wants me to pay again in order to see them lmao. Watch, you pay and it's a tranny or landwhale I bet. Only way to not pay is to keep swiping and hope to come across their profile.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
I'm back. Some updates on OLD. Can I have some advice for HB7?
- Thread starter biggoal
- Start date
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Talked to her again tonight and it's still all good. She will see what her work shift schedule for next week is when she goes to work tomorrow but is off Tue and Wed usually.
One thing I've been doing this time is I'm a bit more flirty in my messages. I mean not over the top like some guys suggest on here. Like using Gifs. Like she was really tired last night and when I said good night sent her a sleeping beauty GIF and she seemed to think it was cute.
One thing I've been doing this time is I'm a bit more flirty in my messages. I mean not over the top like some guys suggest on here. Like using Gifs. Like she was really tired last night and when I said good night sent her a sleeping beauty GIF and she seemed to think it was cute.
Nothing wrong with using tools at your disposal. The FB dating one I looked up because she has a pretty face BUT no body shots. I'm not going to go on a date and it ends up being a land whale. I saw her FB page so I was able to confirm she isn't a landwhale. Just a bit bigger bone frame which is fine so all systems go. Confirmed she's an HB7. Maybe even 7.5 but that photo was from 6 years ago since she has certain privacy settings that doesn't show many pics.
yea I get it... I like to just go and find out, if she's fat then I just never talk to her again, but whenever I meet women from OLD with no body pics, the first meeting is just a meet up. No date or money spent.
I hit the jackpot once with a woman who had no body pics, it's like a 5% chance, but sometimes they hide their body pics because they DO have a great body, and they don't want all the sexual attention
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
True too. This one is hot, but not athletic model hot. Before I got her number and was able to look her up I did ask her if she likes to stay active and stuff. Figured if she said she runs and works out I at least know she isn't likely a whale.
One of the OLD dates from the summer that super snob 9.5HB only had 3 pics. A face one and a couple crappy grainy pics. The one pic I could tell she was a runner and excellent shape but again fuzzy so the face was harder to see. I could tell she was hot still maybe like a HB7.5. When I went on google images and FB and saw more pics since she's a coach I saw she was hotter and when I met her in person I was shocked at the hotness. Even the better photos she didn't look like a 9.5. I think this one did it on purpose with the half arse pics. However then near perfect 10 scale hotness didn't override her horrible personality.
Why do you say that?
We are still texting. She stills says wed is fine meeting near where she lives. She supposed to suggest a couple places. The last 4 days this has been going back and forth where to meet. We got a time in place basically. I mean I'm driving almost 30 miles to meet her. She keeps dodging the meeting location and that.
The thing is she is flirty with me and teases sometimes. From the initial contact on the fb dating app when I left the comment about her smile she commented about my cute reddish hair. I'm flirty in texting too with her and she seems to find it cute.
She also goes to bed around 10 and wakes up at 6am so it's a bit of a challenge to text late.
Anyway tomorrow should I just lay the foot down and ask to confirm the time and place and if she hee haws around just tell her sorry I dont have time for games?
Is she playing hard to get? She does text me good morning a couple times before she went to work.
This old dating is tons of work typically just to secure a date. I mean from sending the messages out and then keep interest so they dont ghost you. Almost not worth the squeeze to use old unless you're in a big city.
The thing is she is flirty with me and teases sometimes. From the initial contact on the fb dating app when I left the comment about her smile she commented about my cute reddish hair. I'm flirty in texting too with her and she seems to find it cute.
She also goes to bed around 10 and wakes up at 6am so it's a bit of a challenge to text late.
Anyway tomorrow should I just lay the foot down and ask to confirm the time and place and if she hee haws around just tell her sorry I dont have time for games?
Is she playing hard to get? She does text me good morning a couple times before she went to work.
This old dating is tons of work typically just to secure a date. I mean from sending the messages out and then keep interest so they dont ghost you. Almost not worth the squeeze to use old unless you're in a big city.
That chick I'm supposed to go out with Wed afternoon got to work and said she has to work Wed now so is off friday and asked if we can reschedule it. I agreed to it. We could have done tomorrow but I work late tonight and cancelling like this lets make her wait a bit now. This is a red flag how she suddenly did that. She works in a restaurant as a waitress. She could probably have said no, she can't and has plans and said she needed wed off still.
This shows me that possibly her interest level isn't high enough to make that type of decision.
She was honest so I'll get her the benefit of the doubt this time. If she gives an excuse like this again then it's not happening. She always seems a bit wishy washy about a time and date until I just laid my foot down.
She is complaining about not being able to get any dates because she said guys always want HER to do the driving and meet them for a date. She lives on an island so she could be driving 20 miles or more. She said that guys flake and won't agree to dates because she refuses to drive to them. She brought this up with me for the first date not wanting to drive 30 miles to see me.
Me thinks possibly these guys know the game. Not wanting to drive to meet a woman that's acting flakey, especially from OLD so they give up and move on to someone else.
Really, this OLD just doesn't seem worth the effort. All the things having to go into it just to get a date.
I guess this is what everyone on here is trying to tell me about OLD.
IF I lived in a major city with a lot of young people to meet I would just drop this chick and not even worry about her, but being the circumstances I'm in I can't let any opportunity slip away.
So what is everyone's views on this? She does work in a restaurant though and it's a very busy tourist location so I can understand the schedule and stuff but still.
When a chick acts like this what do you do?
This shows me that possibly her interest level isn't high enough to make that type of decision.
She was honest so I'll get her the benefit of the doubt this time. If she gives an excuse like this again then it's not happening. She always seems a bit wishy washy about a time and date until I just laid my foot down.
She is complaining about not being able to get any dates because she said guys always want HER to do the driving and meet them for a date. She lives on an island so she could be driving 20 miles or more. She said that guys flake and won't agree to dates because she refuses to drive to them. She brought this up with me for the first date not wanting to drive 30 miles to see me.
Me thinks possibly these guys know the game. Not wanting to drive to meet a woman that's acting flakey, especially from OLD so they give up and move on to someone else.
Really, this OLD just doesn't seem worth the effort. All the things having to go into it just to get a date.
I guess this is what everyone on here is trying to tell me about OLD.
IF I lived in a major city with a lot of young people to meet I would just drop this chick and not even worry about her, but being the circumstances I'm in I can't let any opportunity slip away.
So what is everyone's views on this? She does work in a restaurant though and it's a very busy tourist location so I can understand the schedule and stuff but still.
When a chick acts like this what do you do?
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
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You should visit the restaurant and give her a big tip like $ 1,000 so she'll think you have money and want to go out with you.
Seriously, she'll feel bad for you and give you a pity date.
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Nah let it be.
They're just blogging around with no real intention but that.
At least they have an outlet here.
I dont think he will ever learn. He doesnt take any of the advice given to him.
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Are you visiting the restaurant and trying the $1,000 tip thing or now? You have the guts biggoal? These people are making fun of your threads but I believe in you. I think as more people go full circle they realize being a beta and supplicating after your oneitis is right all along because you cant afford to lose her. Do anything to win her or you may end up an incel like me.
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
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I have biggoal on ignore, but I'm posting in this thread anyway just to say I think it degrades the forum to tolerate either obvious trolls or users who can pass for trolls. It wastes members' attention and energy when they take time out of their day to come here, it makes us more similar to other forums infested with trolls, and it's simply disrespectful to the other users to tolerate degrading their sanctuary with their presence. Despite being able to put them on ignore, my wishful thinking is to ban him and filter hard against not just stereotypical trolls who make it obvious what they are, but also more subtle trolls like biggoal.
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