"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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"im a wuss and i need to fix this situation" BETTER UPDATE

seth03

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ok, so i posted here 2 weeks ago about how i went on 2 dates with a girl and hadn't kissed her yet, and how on the 3rd date, I went up and tried to kiss her at the end of the night, and she blatantly refused, and yelled out "awkward!", etc. etc. But this was all done to a girl who intitally went up and introduced herself to me, took the initiative to ask me out on a date, etc.

Anyways, its been 2 weeks now, and I haven't seen or talked to the girl whatsoever. But her friend got a hold of me today, and told me that the girl wants to hang out with me, and wants me to call her. How do you guys think I should take control of this situation? I am obviously going to call her some day, some time...and I don't even care how long I have to wait. Do you think I should just ignore what she said and wait for the girl to call me? Should I expect her to kiss me now if we go on another date? How do you guys take control of a situation that was once hopeless, and now in the palm of your hands?

-seth
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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milkman

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Originally posted by seth03
Do you think I should just ignore what she said and wait for the girl to call me?
She will never call you. Most girls would never call. They are girls, you are the man.

Originally posted by seth03
Should I expect her to kiss me now if we go on another date?
She will never initiate a first kiss. Most girls would never initiate a first kiss. They are girls, you are the man.



Call her, hang out with her, try to kiss her again. If she refuses, make no deal out of it, just act if nothing would have happened. Talk to her a bit, then try to kiss her again.... same again... same again.... until she kisses you back. Then slowly escalate. Problem solved.;)
 

librito

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take your time and work on your game.
if you go on another date with her the same thing is going to happen.
you know that she likes you. you can wait all you want. practice with other girls even if they dont look as good as you want them to. then, when you come back to this girl with experience and a little more game she wont even recognise you and will go crazy for you.
practice with other girls and she will love you for that.
 

BrotherAP

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Call her, and make her want to come out with you by being funny and not caring if she says no.

Why do guys always get pissed when a girl turns them down for a date? That's textbook "creepy" - seriously. Why do you care SO much if she doesn't want to come out. You're supposed to be not needy, etc.

So call her, and sound like you have the best offer in the world for her. Say "Hey, I just discovered this burger joint called Whatever's, and it's sooo good and I had a lot of fun there. I want to go again on Thursday. I know you like burgers!"

she might say:
"I don't know..."

you: "what, you don't want a good burger? are you on a diet? they'll give you a cracker and some celery if you prefer"

her: "haha, no I'm not on a diet!"

you: "good! then I'll pick you up at 7. Be ready, don't make me wait! Cya Thursday"

her: ok, bye!


it just seems like too many guys around her do this instead

you: "Hey, let's go hiking on saturday" (or whatever date)

her: I dunno

you: if you don't want to spend time with me, whatever. *click*
 

DonJuanMonk

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Don't worry when you'll be kissing her, do it when it's right. When you're focused on "I gotta do this before this and this set time" the pressure is on you and guess what half the time you will fail. If you feel you must kiss on the first date and the timing is right - don't do it. But at any other time, go for it.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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