"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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dancin-diva00

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What's the opinion of allowing women here? I think this place is interesting and I would love to hang out for a while.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Water_Man

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Here are the rules to allow you to stay here.
1. You must make out with me every morning
2. You have to be at my beck and call for sex anytime any place
3. You have to post a nude pic of yourself daily/
 

Eccentric

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You probably wont be taken seriously until some good advice is given.

This doesn't mean if a guy likes a girl, "oh buy her flowers and sing her a poem" crap.
 

DisobeyThePope

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female posters are annoying because they usually give bad advice:down:

edit: i just realized that this is because chicks who come to a place like this are too lazy to actually READ the bible and other essential works of PU theory

are you an attention wh0re? (yes! you probably are!) you want us to take your advice because you're a girl? :crackup: how many chicks have you picked up?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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DJ_in_making

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Originally posted by dancin-diva00
What's the opinion of allowing women here? I think this place is interesting and I would love to hang out for a while.
Just wondering. What is it about a men's seduction website that you find so interesting?
 

dancin-diva00

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Honestly I think a lot of you have interesting stories. Some of the advice is spot on. I don't agree with it all, but I guess I'm just a chick so what the hell would I know.

I just have to ask, what's the harm in me being here? If you don't want me to be just say so. That would be why I asked. I'll just go back to lurking. No biggie.

Look I'm married, so it's not as if I'm looking to pick some guy up. My bad for thinking that it wouldn't be an issue.
 

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Originally posted by dancin-diva00
What's the opinion of allowing women here? I think this place is interesting and I would love to hang out for a while.
Look up the username "Wyldfire" and DON'T be like her. Then you'll be ok.
 

Gonzalo

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Originally posted by dancin-diva00
I just have to ask, what's the harm in me being here?
There's no "harm," but should you know, the purpose of a site such as this one is to give guys a perception of male-female relationships which hasn't been altered by Hallmark, Hollywood, or female advice.

You see, many, if not most of us here, ARE here because in the past we've been burned, mostly because we had a oneitis (love-interest), and we went to our female friends for advice, thinking that they, as females, would know what they looked for in a man. Wrong. Advice usually proves worthless on a practical level.

So now, instead of asking advice to girls who speak from what they "think they would like", we consult among guys who have been out there [ideally!], and hence know first hand what works and what doesn't. Those who give advice without the experience are known as keyboard jockeys.

Just a couple of things to consider before jumping in and saying "just be yourself and she will suck your duck".

G
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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splinterkb

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Look up the username "Wyldfire" and DON'T be like her. Then you'll be ok.

^- I agree completely. So you say some is spot on, and some is off.. Care to explain which is what and why?
 

Gonzalo

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Originally posted by splinterkb
So you say some is spot on, and some is off.. Care to explain which is what and why?
Women are really good at justifying the ends value of what they go after (eg the all-time classic "I love tall guys," when they mean "I want to feel protected). But whenever they meet a short guy who sweeps them off their feet, they're at a loss, so they start attributing qualities which are only real in their minds. So they will say of the short guy "he's so handsome/strinking/awesome".

Now the interesting thing is that, when you ask a female for advice, she will go back in her head to the relationships she's had, and lo and behold, she will start parroting these qualities that she attributed in her mind to the guys in her life: nice, sweet, spend money on her, tell her how you feel. Never will she say keep her on her toes, lead her imagination and give her great feelings, don't crowd her.

I think however that if guys read the material here, as well as other "standards" of PUA, they will soon realize what a woman means when she gives advice to guys about girls. I have this female friend, who's advice I used, unsuccesfully, years ago; but now that I know all this stuff I sometimes ask her how's she's doing with the gentlemen, and she tells me al lthis stuff she thinks the guys are doing: if you can take that for what it is, AND learn through a woman's words what is actually taking place in her mind, then that is pretty golden.

G
 

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I think a female presence woudl be good for all the KBDJS here. At least they could practice speaking to women! ;)

Make sure you read the bible.
 

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You guys need to stop with the abbreviations. It's almost as bad as calling someone a noob.
 

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this place needs more females. i'm sure women will find that a lot of the guys here know more about them then they know about themselves.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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frivolousz21

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Look up the username "Wyldfire" and DON'T be like her. Then you'll be ok

she knows more then you do or just about every guy here

happy new yr
 

Mr. Unique

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Hmm.. thats weird she registered right after that troll tseluca was found out.

pay close atention on this one.
 

LongDrinkofWater

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Hmm.. thats weird she registered right after that troll tseluca was found out.

Interesting observation........
 

Fatality

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I don't understand why any girl would want to be here. Seriously what do you gain by being here?

as for wyldfire, she represents everything that a guy should avoid which makes anything she has to say pointless if you ask me
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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