"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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dancin-diva00

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What's the opinion of allowing women here? I think this place is interesting and I would love to hang out for a while.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Water_Man

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Here are the rules to allow you to stay here.
1. You must make out with me every morning
2. You have to be at my beck and call for sex anytime any place
3. You have to post a nude pic of yourself daily/
 

Eccentric

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You probably wont be taken seriously until some good advice is given.

This doesn't mean if a guy likes a girl, "oh buy her flowers and sing her a poem" crap.
 

DisobeyThePope

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female posters are annoying because they usually give bad advice:down:

edit: i just realized that this is because chicks who come to a place like this are too lazy to actually READ the bible and other essential works of PU theory

are you an attention wh0re? (yes! you probably are!) you want us to take your advice because you're a girl? :crackup: how many chicks have you picked up?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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DJ_in_making

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Originally posted by dancin-diva00
What's the opinion of allowing women here? I think this place is interesting and I would love to hang out for a while.
Just wondering. What is it about a men's seduction website that you find so interesting?
 

dancin-diva00

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Honestly I think a lot of you have interesting stories. Some of the advice is spot on. I don't agree with it all, but I guess I'm just a chick so what the hell would I know.

I just have to ask, what's the harm in me being here? If you don't want me to be just say so. That would be why I asked. I'll just go back to lurking. No biggie.

Look I'm married, so it's not as if I'm looking to pick some guy up. My bad for thinking that it wouldn't be an issue.
 

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Originally posted by dancin-diva00
What's the opinion of allowing women here? I think this place is interesting and I would love to hang out for a while.
Look up the username "Wyldfire" and DON'T be like her. Then you'll be ok.
 

Gonzalo

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Originally posted by dancin-diva00
I just have to ask, what's the harm in me being here?
There's no "harm," but should you know, the purpose of a site such as this one is to give guys a perception of male-female relationships which hasn't been altered by Hallmark, Hollywood, or female advice.

You see, many, if not most of us here, ARE here because in the past we've been burned, mostly because we had a oneitis (love-interest), and we went to our female friends for advice, thinking that they, as females, would know what they looked for in a man. Wrong. Advice usually proves worthless on a practical level.

So now, instead of asking advice to girls who speak from what they "think they would like", we consult among guys who have been out there [ideally!], and hence know first hand what works and what doesn't. Those who give advice without the experience are known as keyboard jockeys.

Just a couple of things to consider before jumping in and saying "just be yourself and she will suck your duck".

G
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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splinterkb

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Look up the username "Wyldfire" and DON'T be like her. Then you'll be ok.

^- I agree completely. So you say some is spot on, and some is off.. Care to explain which is what and why?
 

Gonzalo

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Originally posted by splinterkb
So you say some is spot on, and some is off.. Care to explain which is what and why?
Women are really good at justifying the ends value of what they go after (eg the all-time classic "I love tall guys," when they mean "I want to feel protected). But whenever they meet a short guy who sweeps them off their feet, they're at a loss, so they start attributing qualities which are only real in their minds. So they will say of the short guy "he's so handsome/strinking/awesome".

Now the interesting thing is that, when you ask a female for advice, she will go back in her head to the relationships she's had, and lo and behold, she will start parroting these qualities that she attributed in her mind to the guys in her life: nice, sweet, spend money on her, tell her how you feel. Never will she say keep her on her toes, lead her imagination and give her great feelings, don't crowd her.

I think however that if guys read the material here, as well as other "standards" of PUA, they will soon realize what a woman means when she gives advice to guys about girls. I have this female friend, who's advice I used, unsuccesfully, years ago; but now that I know all this stuff I sometimes ask her how's she's doing with the gentlemen, and she tells me al lthis stuff she thinks the guys are doing: if you can take that for what it is, AND learn through a woman's words what is actually taking place in her mind, then that is pretty golden.

G
 

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I think a female presence woudl be good for all the KBDJS here. At least they could practice speaking to women! ;)

Make sure you read the bible.
 

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You guys need to stop with the abbreviations. It's almost as bad as calling someone a noob.
 

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this place needs more females. i'm sure women will find that a lot of the guys here know more about them then they know about themselves.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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frivolousz21

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Look up the username "Wyldfire" and DON'T be like her. Then you'll be ok

she knows more then you do or just about every guy here

happy new yr
 

Mr. Unique

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Hmm.. thats weird she registered right after that troll tseluca was found out.

pay close atention on this one.
 

LongDrinkofWater

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Hmm.. thats weird she registered right after that troll tseluca was found out.

Interesting observation........
 

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I don't understand why any girl would want to be here. Seriously what do you gain by being here?

as for wyldfire, she represents everything that a guy should avoid which makes anything she has to say pointless if you ask me
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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