"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I'm 27 and an 18 yo said our age difference creeped her out

DJDeMarco

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I'm 27 years old and a lot of the time I go after 18-19 year olds.
I was talking to an 18 year old that I know in real life and is part of a very loose knit social circle with me(ie. no close friends)

I didn't do anything wrong, but she said she was creeped out by the age difference, 9 years. I've had a few times when women around this age don't like or respond to me, then again I've had a 19 year old girlfriend too recently.

I'm not sure what to make of this because it doesn't seem like I'm getting too old for certain women. I figured I could pull college age women into my 30's.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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We were all teenagers once. We all know teenagers are idiots. All sorts of nonsense can spew from their undeveloped brains.

This particular teenager said something that bothered you. But it shouldn't, because you already know shes an idiot and its a phase she's just going to have to get over, like the rest of us did.

Disregard.
 

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Start telling older women the lack of age difference creeps you out, whatever that even means.
 

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mrRuckus said:
Start telling older women the lack of age difference creeps you out, whatever that even means.
:crackup: This makes no sense at all, so for a female brain, it should make perfect sense :crackup:

OP, would George Clooney's age matter to this girl? I imagine this is just her way of saying she is not interested. Don't take it personally. At her age of 18 you are dealing with a little girl here, nothing more. For an 18yo I would say you are dealing with a little girl with pubic hair, but in this day and age, she probably doesn't have any of that either :crackup:
 

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Its not that it creeped her out, its that she is following a script in which a teenage girl has to be creeped out from older guys...female sheep mentality.

Had a gf 10 yrs younger than me, needless to say had to pass plenty of initial resistance.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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It's a soft rejection.

Hell, I've had jail bait attracted to me and I'm 36 (I keep in shape).

I'm also not above lying about my age for casual encounters, though I haven't had to. I'd never try dating an 18 year old unless they were mature enough not to annoy me. It gets to a point where it feels really odd.
 

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Funny thing is I get better treatment from girls 18 - 23 then I do with older women that are 30 and over. Then again I look very young and have the energy to match. With females if one thing doesn't bother them then something else will. Fvck it. I wouldn't pay it any mind. If she's really THAT into you then she'll be hell bent on not making any issues out of nothing regardless of the age difference. If she's not then it suddenly becomes a big deal.
 

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At that age they are kids. At your age you are supposed to be a responsible adult or on the way to it.

Personally I wouldn't mess with under 21, I wouldn't even mess with under 25 or 28 at my age...

Hit em if you can don't take it too serious. You shouldn't be complaining.
 

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I would bet money that if the right 27 year old dude came along (one that tingled her gina), she would forget all about being "creeped out" by the age difference.
 

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That's a hive mind after being brainwashed by the feminist mafia-union.

Regardless, in essence, it's a **** test or rationalized reasoning for a low interest rejection. Like what has been said above, pass the test - don't give a fvck about what she says - and you'll be one step closer to banging that young fertile wrinkless flabless ***** of hers.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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It's a soft rejection, but a rejection nonetheless.

Brad Pitt's age difference wouldn't creep her out. And if you were a teenager, Jennifer Aniston/ Coolidge/ Lopez's age difference wouldn't creep you out.

Get the point? There you go.

And while Judge nismo is a corrupt judge, I don't deal in jailbait. I bring milfs into chambers.

Case closed.
 

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I wouldn't think much about it.

Remember when you were in high school in Grade 11 and the kids in Grade 12 seemed SO much older and mature.

Give her 10 years and she'll be begging for guys older than her.
 

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So what you're saying is you're almost a pedo and have never slept with a real woman, jeezus glad I don't know you, grow up you ****ing weirdo.
 

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nemz said:
So what you're saying is you're almost a pedo and have never slept with a real woman, jeezus glad I don't know you, grow up you ****ing weirdo.
If this is facetious, then :crackup:

If this is shaming, then :down:
 

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Speaking my mind, deal with it - I've had many a relationship where the women was 9 years younger, but they were still women, not children - if I found some 27 year old bloke messing round with my 17 year old daughter (in 2 years time) I'd break his ****ing legs the ****ing gob****e.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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damnit nemz, you promised to stop breaking people's legs!
 

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It's a dad thing dude ;) usually relatively calm - as a man I know how we think an I'd do time for her, nuff said.
 

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nemz said:
It's a dad thing dude ;) usually relatively calm - as a man I know how we think an I'd do time for her, nuff said.
Do time for what?
 

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WanderingMan said:
Do time for what?
Read my most recent posts in this very thread and try to work it out, it's not too difficult dude.
 

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nemz said:
Read my most recent posts in this very thread and try to work it out, it's not too difficult dude.
I was trying to figure out what you're talking about. Op is talking about an 18 year old WOMAN. Then you bring up your daughter who is 15 now? And what you would do if someone had sex with her in two years when she was 17 years old (is that right)?

Are you just trying to justify your insults and shaming language you used here?:
nemz said:
So what you're saying is you're almost a pedo and have never slept with a real woman, jeezus glad I don't know you, grow up you ****ing weirdo.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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