"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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WestCoaster said:
I never, ever got the feeling that was true from your previous posts. I'm glad he is now. Being a supreme player was the message of your earlier posts, the kid appeared to be an after thought. He probably wasn't, but that was what was conveyed.

Sorry I conveyed that...I dont like that..from day one I was there everyday helping take care of him..I never pushed him aside so I could go out.

I spent every dime I had to get a nice place to stay and all that.

my relationship with her ended when her college years ended.

she had our son 2 months after college graduation. She went from the girl I met back to wanting her catholic lifestyle she grew up with.

that was game over for us. I dont blame her she is human..I just wish I knew how strong that was for her before I fell for the girl she was when I met her..

Live and Learn.

atleast she gave me a precious child.

and remember guys..your a lot older than me..I was 22 when I met her and just turned 23 when she got pregnant.

I WAS NOT MATURE enough at the time to be the father ive become today.

and there is no way I am as mature as I will be 5, 10, 20 years from now..keep that in perspective when your giving me advice and talking to me.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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WestCoaster said:
Sounds like you're on the right track and know what you're doing.

I have an idea..but im not sure..but im here to listen..ill make sure I let everyone here how things progress..even though it wont be about woman..

I want to become a better man in all aspects of my life
 

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Friv, we need a post-mortem. What do you think went wrong?

How did you get from "when you really experience love, you will know" to this point? It sounds like she changed, and you ended it. I've never been a father, or had a relationship last that long. What was the deal-breaking change for you? What made you loose the passion severely enough to call it off?

I WAS NOT MATURE enough at the time to be the father ive become today.
Oh yeah. I think you've given many of the guys here an ego-orgasm of "I told you so."
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Phyzzle said:
Friv, we need a post-mortem. What do you think went wrong?

How did you get from "when you really experience love, you will know" to this point? It sounds like she changed, and you ended it. I've never been a father, or had a relationship last that long. What was the deal-breaking change for you? What made you loose the passion severely enough to call it off?
I'm curious to know as well.

Just goes to further prove my theory that "love" is nothing more than a bunch of smoke and mirrors, and that the thing which we call "love" is only given by a woman to a man based upon what he has to offer her at any given time.

I'm telling you, when I watched my girlfriend of 2 years go from thinking I was a GOD that could do NO wrong, to her treating me like a pile of sh!t that she wanted nothing to do with (over the course of only a couple of weeks, mind you), I knew at that point what i was dealing with.
 

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Ever onward said:
I know you're trying to make a point but don't EVER say that again! :crackup:
I interpreted joekerr to meant so we could rub it in your ugly face good:D
 

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I interpreted joekerr to meant so we could rub it in your ugly face good
That's the way I understood him also. I'm just afraid if he speaks the name we're not supposed to say she will appear.
 

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when I watched my girlfriend of 2 years go from thinking I was a GOD that could do NO wrong, to her treating me like a pile of sh!t that she wanted nothing to do with (over the course of only a couple of weeks, mind you), I knew at that point what i was dealing with.

I had a HB9 gf fall in love with me within a week: constant freaky sex and 'I love you' exchanged. Then the next week, no sex and she does not even care that I exist. It's been a week since we had sex, so I just got another girl (had one fall into my lap, actually), but I don't think she's even noticed that I'm dating someone else. Cheating is no fun when she does not even suspect anything. But regardless, it shows how quickly the chick who is crazy in love with you can change her tune.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Bible_Belt said:
I had a HB9 gf fall in love with me within a week: constant freaky sex and 'I love you' exchanged. Then the next week, no sex and she does not even care that I exist. It's been a week since we had sex, so I just got another girl (had one fall into my lap, actually), but I don't think she's even noticed that I'm dating someone else. Cheating is no fun when she does not even suspect anything. But regardless, it shows how quickly the chick who is crazy in love with you can change her tune.
Love, puppy dogs, unicorns, rainbows with pots of gold.....

Fukk all that rubbish.

A chick will fawn over you and make you FEEL as if you are the only person who could ever complete her world, then the next minute you do something "wrong" according to her and all of a sudden you're a piece of sh!t.

Don't buy it fellas. She's out for HERSELF. And that's ok, as long as you understand the dynamic to know what is REALLY going on.

Too many guys assume that they have landed the catch when in reality the fight has just begun.

They set the hook in the thin flesh on the outside of the jaw and assume that they can let out some slack in the line without fear of repercussions, but it doesn't work that way
 
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