"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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WestCoaster said:
I never, ever got the feeling that was true from your previous posts. I'm glad he is now. Being a supreme player was the message of your earlier posts, the kid appeared to be an after thought. He probably wasn't, but that was what was conveyed.

Sorry I conveyed that...I dont like that..from day one I was there everyday helping take care of him..I never pushed him aside so I could go out.

I spent every dime I had to get a nice place to stay and all that.

my relationship with her ended when her college years ended.

she had our son 2 months after college graduation. She went from the girl I met back to wanting her catholic lifestyle she grew up with.

that was game over for us. I dont blame her she is human..I just wish I knew how strong that was for her before I fell for the girl she was when I met her..

Live and Learn.

atleast she gave me a precious child.

and remember guys..your a lot older than me..I was 22 when I met her and just turned 23 when she got pregnant.

I WAS NOT MATURE enough at the time to be the father ive become today.

and there is no way I am as mature as I will be 5, 10, 20 years from now..keep that in perspective when your giving me advice and talking to me.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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WestCoaster said:
Sounds like you're on the right track and know what you're doing.

I have an idea..but im not sure..but im here to listen..ill make sure I let everyone here how things progress..even though it wont be about woman..

I want to become a better man in all aspects of my life
 

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Friv, we need a post-mortem. What do you think went wrong?

How did you get from "when you really experience love, you will know" to this point? It sounds like she changed, and you ended it. I've never been a father, or had a relationship last that long. What was the deal-breaking change for you? What made you loose the passion severely enough to call it off?

I WAS NOT MATURE enough at the time to be the father ive become today.
Oh yeah. I think you've given many of the guys here an ego-orgasm of "I told you so."
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Phyzzle said:
Friv, we need a post-mortem. What do you think went wrong?

How did you get from "when you really experience love, you will know" to this point? It sounds like she changed, and you ended it. I've never been a father, or had a relationship last that long. What was the deal-breaking change for you? What made you loose the passion severely enough to call it off?
I'm curious to know as well.

Just goes to further prove my theory that "love" is nothing more than a bunch of smoke and mirrors, and that the thing which we call "love" is only given by a woman to a man based upon what he has to offer her at any given time.

I'm telling you, when I watched my girlfriend of 2 years go from thinking I was a GOD that could do NO wrong, to her treating me like a pile of sh!t that she wanted nothing to do with (over the course of only a couple of weeks, mind you), I knew at that point what i was dealing with.
 

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Ever onward said:
I know you're trying to make a point but don't EVER say that again! :crackup:
I interpreted joekerr to meant so we could rub it in your ugly face good:D
 

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I interpreted joekerr to meant so we could rub it in your ugly face good
That's the way I understood him also. I'm just afraid if he speaks the name we're not supposed to say she will appear.
 

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when I watched my girlfriend of 2 years go from thinking I was a GOD that could do NO wrong, to her treating me like a pile of sh!t that she wanted nothing to do with (over the course of only a couple of weeks, mind you), I knew at that point what i was dealing with.

I had a HB9 gf fall in love with me within a week: constant freaky sex and 'I love you' exchanged. Then the next week, no sex and she does not even care that I exist. It's been a week since we had sex, so I just got another girl (had one fall into my lap, actually), but I don't think she's even noticed that I'm dating someone else. Cheating is no fun when she does not even suspect anything. But regardless, it shows how quickly the chick who is crazy in love with you can change her tune.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Bible_Belt said:
I had a HB9 gf fall in love with me within a week: constant freaky sex and 'I love you' exchanged. Then the next week, no sex and she does not even care that I exist. It's been a week since we had sex, so I just got another girl (had one fall into my lap, actually), but I don't think she's even noticed that I'm dating someone else. Cheating is no fun when she does not even suspect anything. But regardless, it shows how quickly the chick who is crazy in love with you can change her tune.
Love, puppy dogs, unicorns, rainbows with pots of gold.....

Fukk all that rubbish.

A chick will fawn over you and make you FEEL as if you are the only person who could ever complete her world, then the next minute you do something "wrong" according to her and all of a sudden you're a piece of sh!t.

Don't buy it fellas. She's out for HERSELF. And that's ok, as long as you understand the dynamic to know what is REALLY going on.

Too many guys assume that they have landed the catch when in reality the fight has just begun.

They set the hook in the thin flesh on the outside of the jaw and assume that they can let out some slack in the line without fear of repercussions, but it doesn't work that way
 
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