TylerDurden
Don Juan
What do you guys think about a girl who says that they will call you and then they don't.
How do you really know that she has low interest?
How do you really know that she has low interest?
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Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.
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There was an episode of Sienfield on last night where that's what you say. It doesn't mean you will call. It's like good bye...
Like they say, it's not what she says, it's what she does. If she doesn't call when she said she would, she isn't interested...
Like they say, it's not what she says, it's what she does. If she doesn't call when she said she would, she isn't interested...
Eyecandie4ya
Senior Don Juan
When a female doesn't call you back for the first time she stated that she going to call is nothing to get bent out of shape about. Hell, sometimes I do it but I do call the following day. We have to remember that we all are human so we are bound to mess up sometimes.
But if she continues to say she will call you back and don't while you've been doing all of the calling then you should take a step back out of that situation. She don't even have the descency to call you at all. This is the time to chill out.
If she calls back then act accordingly and call her out on her s**t(DJ style)
But if she continues to say she will call you back and don't while you've been doing all of the calling then you should take a step back out of that situation. She don't even have the descency to call you at all. This is the time to chill out.
If she calls back then act accordingly and call her out on her s**t(DJ style)
Great answer, xblitz, in all seriousness, you need to know her well enough to know her tendencies in order to successfully gauge her interest here.
Is the girl shy? Is she flaky by nature? I knew a shy girl that never called me just out of the blue. It's a little awkward for a girl to call a guy unless there's something to talk about, otherwise the girl is calling to ask the guy out, which for girls, is awkward as well. Playing hard-to-get is also another tactic, but be careful not to mistakenly assume this because if you do, it makes your life hell because you start getting too paranoid about it and think she's playing games with every move she makes.
TylerDurden
Don Juan
Maybe I should have put it another way. How are the calling habits of the girls that you guys have dated?
Were her calling habits spotty in the beginning?
Because she is not initiating calls or calling back does this mean that you should NEXT her?
Were her calling habits spotty in the beginning?
Because she is not initiating calls or calling back does this mean that you should NEXT her?
What does her calling habits have to do with anything? You called and she didn't respond. This isn't rocket science, Ty.
You're taking a "no" and trying to form a "yes" out of it. Stop rationalizing disrespectful behavior.
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i delete the girl's number as soon as she flakes. i don't have the time nor the inclination to waste on some chick with low IL.
i also don't give my number out to a girl if she refuses to. the other day i tried to number close an HB8 and she says, "i don't give out my number, but i'll take yours." i said, "what a coincidence, i don't give mine out either. have a nice night."
i also don't give my number out to a girl if she refuses to. the other day i tried to number close an HB8 and she says, "i don't give out my number, but i'll take yours." i said, "what a coincidence, i don't give mine out either. have a nice night."
Frank Zappa
Senior Don Juan
From my experience, if her calling habits are flaky in the beginning, she's not that interested. If she really wants to reach you, she will make the time and effort to reach you. That doesn't mean you can't increase her interest level though. Try calling her once and only once to see if she'll respond. Then if you set the stage right she should be calling you more or equally than you call her. ~Zappa
It seems like most of you are assuming that girls will all be comfortable calling a guy. If she's interested in you, and she's shy, it will take quite a bit of courage to pick up the phone and contact you. It's not as easy as it seems. I used to hate calling up girls since I'm so much more comfortable speaking to them in person.
TylerDurden
Don Juan
This is really the point that I am getting at. Well said Becker. Why are we NEXTING girls who don't call back so quickly? Maybe she is shy. Maybe she feels that calling a man is too forward. I am not trying to turn a no into a yes. I am questioning the rule that if a girl does not call back that she is not interested.
She could be shy about calling guys. After all, even if a girl has high IL don't you still have to date and pursue her?
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I hope you weren't waiting by the phone....
TylerDurden
Don Juan
Re: Re: I'll call you.
Here are some thoughts on this. Let's say I meet Hot Babe Jill. Jill looks like Jennifer Lopez except better. You number cose on Jill with no problem. Would you call Jill once and then NEXT her? Of course you don't want to be annoying. Would you pursue her? AFC's seem to do well with their calling techniques. There are more DJ's than AFC's yet I see alot of AFC's with HB's while the DJ's are NEXTING girl after girl for not calling back.
Should we be calling more or refining the current calling strategy?
No I wasn't. I DO think that we may be missing out on an important part of seduction that we don't really discusss her. The calling/phone game. The current calling stratagies seem to be weak. One call and if she doesn't call back then we NEXT her? What about the guy(afc) who calls until he gets a date or an answer?
Here are some thoughts on this. Let's say I meet Hot Babe Jill. Jill looks like Jennifer Lopez except better. You number cose on Jill with no problem. Would you call Jill once and then NEXT her? Of course you don't want to be annoying. Would you pursue her? AFC's seem to do well with their calling techniques. There are more DJ's than AFC's yet I see alot of AFC's with HB's while the DJ's are NEXTING girl after girl for not calling back.
Should we be calling more or refining the current calling strategy?
tyler, you're analyzing the whole calling process way too much.
it's simple:
if she's interested, she will call (or return your call)
thats not to say next her after one call, but be able to take a hint when one is presented to you
ps that first response was great, i think thats the first time i've ever legitimately laughed out loud here
it's simple:
if she's interested, she will call (or return your call)
thats not to say next her after one call, but be able to take a hint when one is presented to you
ps that first response was great, i think thats the first time i've ever legitimately laughed out loud here
TesuqueRed
Master Don Juan
From my experience, if you just met and asked for a phone number and she replies "give me your number and I'll call.." is bad.
The reason for that doesnt' matter--if she had high IL (which you should be looking for) she would take the risk and give the home phone number (or the number she would give to all her GFs to reach her the best..)
The reasons for it are legit--security, etc. but that doesn't matter. In the IL-test, she either has a high level or not, and based on that either gives the number or not.
"I'll call you" is her firmly taking the control from you.
When I get that "I'll call you.." stuff, I just blow it off. If they do--fine, but I don't expect it.
The reason for that doesnt' matter--if she had high IL (which you should be looking for) she would take the risk and give the home phone number (or the number she would give to all her GFs to reach her the best..)
The reasons for it are legit--security, etc. but that doesn't matter. In the IL-test, she either has a high level or not, and based on that either gives the number or not.
"I'll call you" is her firmly taking the control from you.
When I get that "I'll call you.." stuff, I just blow it off. If they do--fine, but I don't expect it.
drixsa
Master Don Juan
the truth is that a lot of the times girls arent good at making calls
some dont even call their friends
thats why we are supposed to get the number
some dont even call their friends
thats why we are supposed to get the number
What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.
You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.
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