"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
If your girl is pregnant
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
do you want to be a father? if not, did she know from the beginning you don't want a child?
are you 100% sure she is pregnant?
I plan on the paternity test, but pretty sure it's mine.
I don't love this girl, but I won't be a rat and abandon her.
So now am I stuck in a miserable relationship the rest of my life with a girl I don't love and a kid? Maybe I'll love the kid.
I want to be a father sure, but not with her.
I still should have worn a condom though.
So is it game over? I'll never find the love of my life?
Like I said, I can't just abandon the girl because I don't love her. I have morals. She does love me, but I don't love her.
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Read my first post. She is against abortion. She will never do it. She would never give it away for adoption. She wants the damn kid. She's happy she's pregnant. She got me good. My only hope is the paternity test reveals it's not mine.
The one thing I will not do is marry her because of this.
frivolousz21
Master Don Juan
just be a good dad..pay child support and see your child as much as you can.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Let that be a lesson to the rest of you, never trust a girl with the pills (she either forgets to take them or they don't end up working properly). Even if a girl says she will take the 48hr pill or do abortion, don;t believe her. She might change her mind when she will have to make that tough decision.
Even if you wear a condom I recommand to still pull it out before you ***.
If you don't love her, don't be with her despite if its your kid or not.
I guess you're right.
It's what the woman says goes. We have legislation making head way to states that women may have an abortion without asking for permission first from their husband/boyfriend, etc.
Screw child support, just split the time taking care of the child. There is no reason women should have more power in who gets to take care of the child over males. If she takes care of the baby full time and you just send checks and stop by time to time, she can influence the child into resenting her father.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
about maybe ten years ago, i had a conversation with this guy who had a night stand with some girl... she got pregnant. she wanted to keep the baby. the guy explained to the girl that he would be there for the baby, but he wouldn't be there for her.
this is the same approach i'd take if i was in a similar situation. i know it sounds harsh, but in a complicated situaiton like this, it's best to be blunt/to the point. i would tell her, "i do not see myself being with you in the future. but what ever decision you make, i'll respect that. and i'll be there for the baby... but i'm not going to be there for you."
reminds me of something chris rock said in one of his stand up routines. i'll never forget this!
"If you get a girl pregnant, NEVER even consider mentioning abortion. don't even mention the first ****ing syllables. because if she decides to keep it, that baby will be six years old one day... and you'll ask your son how he's doing, and he'll say, "I'M ALIVE MOTHER****ER! THAT'S HOW I'M DOING! YOU WANTED ME DEAD! BUT LOOK AT ME! I'M ALIVE MOTHER****ER!"
So to avoid this type of drama, there's only two things you can say to a girl in this type of situation:
1) said in an AFC'ish type of way, "Oh baby, this is fantastic! I look forward to having this baby with you. Oh baby I loooove you!....
2) Look at her straight in the eyes seriously and say, "So what are you going to do?"
Oh man, that was classic! Funny yet so true
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I've noticed that women are terrible at taking ANY kind of pills. Unless you live with the woman and see her take the pill each day, don't take her word for it. Put a rubber on.
If you don't have joined custody, you'll probably end up paying for child support. All your paycheques will have a chunk deducted off them (which is based on your gross, not your take-home) to care for said baby (and for the mother to spend however she sees fit). You have two choices:
1) Joined custody
2) Pay for the kid's needs, her makeup, her shoes, her new bf's birthday present, etc etc.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.