If you haven't excelled in life by age 32, it's pretty much over.

[svencandy]

What is your employment history?
How do you make your cash right now?

 

[itouchyou]

In terms of looks, most celebrities peaked in their mid 30s. Do some digging and you'll see.

 

[Redwood]

I thought it was supposed to be 35/40

 

[MatureDJ]

It's OVER for 32UnexCelleds

 

[MatureDJ]

I write this as a 32-year-old whose entire adulthood has been a cluster**** of epic proportions. Only been in two relationships, the latter being eight years long and toxic for at least half of that time. Only have $30k in the bank. Don't own property. Only ****ed 4 women. Hated college. Don't really have friends, just two drinking buddies who drag me down with them. Never seen my abs (I'm not fat but just not in shape)

I often hear all these stories of late bloomers, but I think 32 is the cut-off point. I previously kept holding out hope, but I harbour zero hope for myself anymore. My youth is over...I'll never get the carefree fun youth that 99% of the human population enjoys. I probably won't make a single new friend for the rest of my life, and I certainly won't ever be a player. I'm screwed.

When I hit 32, I barely had 8 months of relationships total. I did have a house and 6 figures in my IRA/401K though.

 

[Yam_Naem_Kluk]

^ I'm nowhere near either owning a house or having six figures in a retirement fund.

 

[Redwood]

^ I'm nowhere near either owning a house or having six figures in a retirement fund.

Same here.

 

[Rainman4707]

I write this as a 32-year-old whose entire adulthood has been a cluster**** of epic proportions. Only been in two relationships, the latter being eight years long and toxic for at least half of that time. Only have $30k in the bank. Don't own property. Only ****ed 4 women. Hated college. Don't really have friends, just two drinking buddies who drag me down with them. Never seen my abs (I'm not fat but just not in shape)

I often hear all these stories of late bloomers, but I think 32 is the cut-off point. I previously kept holding out hope, but I harbour zero hope for myself anymore. My youth is over...I'll never get the carefree fun youth that 99% of the human population enjoys. I probably won't make a single new friend for the rest of my life, and I certainly won't ever be a player. I'm screwed.

I understand why you may feel like this.
Me personally. I'm 38. I now feel like a lot of the pressure is off. When i was younger, i was focused on creating a family life for myself, that never happened, so now i can settle down and enjoy my woman and life without feeling pressured to start a family. Life begins at 40.

 

[xavier_2000]

I write this as a 32-year-old whose entire adulthood has been a cluster**** of epic proportions. Only been in two relationships, the latter being eight years long and toxic for at least half of that time. Only have $30k in the bank. Don't own property. Only ****ed 4 women. Hated college. Don't really have friends, just two drinking buddies who drag me down with them. Never seen my abs (I'm not fat but just not in shape)

I often hear all these stories of late bloomers, but I think 32 is the cut-off point. I previously kept holding out hope, but I harbour zero hope for myself anymore. My youth is over...I'll never get the carefree fun youth that 99% of the human population enjoys. I probably won't make a single new friend for the rest of my life, and I certainly won't ever be a player. I'm screwed.

No you’re not bro. Surgeons start their profession at your age.

You are freaking young lol you got like 20 more years of this window of youth looks wise. You have acquired some sorts of skills now just apply it bro.

There is no cut off point. Unless you wanna play NBA lol

I didn’t get that carefree fun youth lol never had a single friend invite me over in high school and elementary. First party I went to was when I was 19. I worked and had a job since 12 cause my parents were broke. Was a loner all my life until like 1st year college

I can relate to this feeling of regret cause I never got to be a kid lol. But that’s all a story who cares. It’s in the past. It doesn’t exist now.

It made me who I am today and the strengths I have.

Went from 0-10K/month in like 7 days. You needa just now learn and take action. Success is so easy and fast nowadays. Use your resources and knowledge and just play

Now you woke up and realized how short and long life is… go out there lmao. Do what you wanna do for you. Not for what society cares. Get your hobbies back again, pursue this idea you had.

Just freaking play bro. It’s all a game. None of this sh matters.

 

[MatureDJ]

I understand why you may feel like this.
Me personally. I'm 38. I now feel like a lot of the pressure is off. When i was younger, i was focused on creating a family life for myself, that never happened, so now i can settle down and enjoy my woman and life without feeling pressured to start a family. Life begins at 40.

LifeBeginsAt40Cope

 

[Mike32ct]

I’m still waiting for my car insurance rates to go down when I turn 25. I’m 47 now.

 

[Sigmapocalypse]

It is never too late to change and turn things around. Thats the beauty of life

 

[Rainman4707]

LifeBeginsAt40Cope

Dont get it?

 

[Millard Fillmore]

Yesterday's gone, tomorrow's not guaranteed. So none of that sh!t matters.

 

[needimprovement250]

You’re doing a lot better than me OP. I’m just about to turn 30 and I’ve never dated anyone. Only 1 single date that ended in a hook up 8 years ago and fooling around with another girl 3 years ago and nothing at all since. I also barely have $100 in the bank and I still live at home with my parents. It could be worse, a lot worse.

 

[SW15]

I’m still waiting for my car insurance rates to go down when I turn 25.

I never saw that happen at 25 either.

You’re doing a lot better than me OP. I’m just about to turn 30 and I’ve never dated anyone. Only 1 single date that ended in a hook up 8 years ago and fooling around with another girl 3 years ago and nothing at all since. I also barely have $100 in the bank and I still live at home with my parents. It could be worse, a lot worse.

You won't be able to fucck a female porn star with those accomplishments.

Living with parents totally sucks as an adult.

 

[needimprovement250]

I never saw that happen at 25 either.



You won't be able to fucck a female porn star with those accomplishments.

Living with parents totally sucks as an adult.

Yes it does and its caused me a lot of rage and depression. Women also don’t want to date a 30 year old man who still lives with his parents, its a huge turn off to most of them.

 

[SW15]

Women also don’t want to date a 30 year old man who still lives with his parents, its a huge turn off to most of them.

Throughout life, men are judged on their living/housing situations whereas women are rarely ever judged on it.

The only time a woman would be judged negatively in the sexual marketplace for her living/housing situations would be if she were homeless/living in a homeless shelter. With homeless/borderline homeless women, their looks rating would likely also suffer as homelessness is not good for looks. Fewer women are also homeless as compared to men. For housed women, there's not much difference between living with parents, living with roommates in an apartment or a detached house, renting and living alone, or being a homeowner and living alone.

About 15 years ago, I knew a woman in her late 20s living alone who was dating a man 6'0"+ and with a solid income. That's the equivalent of a man in his late 20s living at home and having sex with 21-27 year olds who rate 7.5+ in looks. That's unlikely to happen for a man in his late 20s living with parents. There are exceptions to rules though. On this board, @BPH is a late 20s guy who lives in his parents' house & has had sex with 80+ women, though he is 6'0" and is fit.

For men, this is how women evaluate them for their living/housing situations based on the age of the man.

18-23: There's a lot of variability in this age range. A lot of this depends upon if a man is attending college or not and if he's interacting with women attending college or not. Most women will generally consider it to be ok to be living at home during this time frame though it's not the living situation that 18-23 year old women prefer with men 18-23. Women 18-23 prefer men 18-23 to either be living alone in a one bedroom apartment or have roommates in an apartment or house. Between 18-20, a lot of women and men are in college dorms. College dorms stink. You're typically sharing one small room with another person, which can affect sexual logistics. In a lot of colleges, the typical housing path for students is to only live on campus freshman year or maybe freshman and sophomore years. It depends on the culture of the college.

If you're living at home in this age range, then you'd better have a good reason why you're living at home instead of with roommates. If you have a good reason, there's not much of a penalty for doing it in this age.

24-29: By 24-25, most men who've attended college have completed their bachelor's degree. Men typically finish high school at age 18. If a man goes straight from high school to college and completes it in a standard 4 years, that makes him 22 when he graduates. In evaluating most people's paths, there's usually a 2-3 year buffer zone in the evaluation. That can cover taking 1-3 years off before starting college, taking 5 years to graduate college, going to school part time while working, etc.

I also believe college degrees are overrated and trade school is a better path. The trade school path is a little less conventional, but most who don't go to college and get a trade certification usually get it by 25.

When women consider men 24-29, they expect that they've completed a major part of their education, such as a bachelor's degree or a trade certification. Some men will get advanced level degrees during this time frame.

Most women expect a 24-29 year old man to be living independently in some way. There is a harsh penalty for living with parents by age 24. Most 24-29 year old men will either have an apartment alone or with roommates. Some will be renting houses with roommates. A few men will even buy a detached house or a condo/townhome by this point in their lives, though unmarried/never married men typically don't buy houses until they are 30+.

In more urban areas, there's some debate about whether a nicer apartment with roommates is better than an adequate, somewhat older 1 bedroom apartment alone. I think the 1 bedroom apartment alone is better.

There are some single fathers by 24-29, but this typically happens in less educated groups. Men with bachelor's degrees + are typically childless 24-29 or they've had their first kid with some woman by then and have yet to become separated from her.

30-39: This is the range where roommates become less acceptable. Women typically expect childless men in their 30s to have moved beyond the roommate phase in their lives. The only exceptions are highly expensive cities in the USA and Western Europe. In the USA, these cities are either in the Northeast or on the West Coast.

In bigger cities, when women considered childless men in this range, they start to become more particular about his apartment. An adequate, older one bedroom apartment becomes less likely to impress women. Better than average apartments start to become more essential for the man.

Late 20s/early 30s is when childless women with bachelor's or advanced degrees start to buy their own houses. Some of these women might look down on a guy in an apartment. These are mostly careerist women anyway, so it's not a big loss.

Mid to late 30s is when a lot of people who married between 24-29 get divorced. It's common to see more 35-39 year old single fathers. 35-39 year old childless men are becoming more commonplace now because 35-39 year old men now were 1980s born Millennials.

It's important to note one changeover in one's 30s. When women consider men 35+, possessions and money take on a greater importance and looks take on less of one, though looks still matter in 30s/40s.

Living with parents in 30s and not being independent is still bad.

40+: Things get really random and scattered here. Millennials are starting to turn 40 now and the 40 year old Millennial now looks much different than the 40 year old Boomer in the 1980s/1990s or the 40 year old Gen X'er in the 2000s-2010s. The 40 year old Millennial is more likely to be childless and often never married, though there are some 40 year old childless divorcees.

There are way too many different things that happen in this age that it's not easy to describe.

 

[manfrombelow]

Well these threads don't really help, truly.

If you're 32, and you still don't have your purchased house and car, but you have a stable income which helps you afford your little cozy rent, bring food onto the kitchen table, and fill the gasoline tank for your car, and you don't have any medical/health issues yourself, I don't think it's that bad.

 

[sangheilios]

I think it depends upon what we are discussing.

If we are talking about dating and relationships, if a man is 32 and still single with no real prospects he needs to accept that it's very likely that he will struggle to find anything available. This has nothing to do with game or vibe or other nonsense and more related to the fact that the majority of women within your realistic dating age range will already be in serious relationships. It doesn't matter if you are tall, ripped, do well for yourself, etc. when there are no women to choose from.

If we are talking about money/finance, this is not true. If you can start investing in your 20s you are way ahead of the game but even your 30s you still have plenty of time to do well. Many adults are living paycheck to paycheck and have little to nothing saved or invested. Plenty of opportunities to turn this around, you could easily get a side hustle delivering pizzas or waiting tables or something like that for some easy cash.

If we are talking about career, this is also not true. It's pretty common knowledge that working adults will often change careers a few times in their working lives. There is plenty of opportunity to get your degree or some training in another field. I think the biggest thing is to know what you want to go for and committing to it. With that said, college is a very easy way to financially set yourself back significantly if you make some of the wrong moves. This also becomes a much more difficult process if you have children or other major responsibilities.