If you could only take one supplement, what would it be?

[Warboss Alex]

When and why would you take only fishoil?

because basically it's the closest thing to a magic potion that there is, for overall health, wellbeing and lifting performance/muscle gains/fat loss.

and nearly everyone who doesn't supplement it is deficient in omega3's

 

[Warboss Alex]

Oils/fatty acids(eg fish oil) are as important to the smooth functioning of the human body as engine oil is to your car.

good analogy, and we can extend that to say that fats are the equivalent of diesel fuel to the human body.. carbs are gasoline.

 

[Throttle]

if by gasoline, you mean something that could blow the car up... i'm reading gary taubes new book (good calories/bad calories) and he essentially argues what you've been arguing for a long time, WBA, that carbs are entirely unnecessary to human health, and are linked to excess body fat.

 

[Quagmire911]

good analogy, and we can extend that to say that fats are the equivalent of diesel fuel to the human body.. carbs are gasoline.

Reminds me of when I heard about my Mum's cousin putting the wrong fuel in her car and it wouldn't leave the petrol station or something. :crackup:

Makes you think, the mechanics repair the car and makes it "healthy" again so to speak.

Humans go to the hospital to get healthy, however the specialists in this country and America are advocating carbs etc, therefore we have the obesity epidemic and all the problems of diabetes. Yeyyy!

 

[mrRuckus]

Obesity is by no means an epidemic. Don't get caught up in the media hype.

 

[Quagmire911]

Obesity is by no means an epidemic. Don't get caught up in the media hype.

Hmmm, it is an exaggeration. However the obesity problem is very real. Especially in good old Glasgow! And it will bloody become an epidemic if people don't change. I read an article yesteday talking about the hundreds of millions of pounds extra it costs in Scotland alone, on the NHS, simply because of people's flab. It is one of a couple of things that is putting a huge strain on the services in this country. And it is contagious in a way beacuse of how people copy each other's bad dietary habits.

Quagmire

 

[Warboss Alex]

if by gasoline, you mean something that could blow the car up... i'm reading gary taubes new book (good calories/bad calories) and he essentially argues what you've been arguing for a long time, WBA, that carbs are entirely unnecessary to human health, and are linked to excess body fat.

the human genotype evolved without agricultural carbs (wholegrain or otherwise) for eons on just protein and fat and vegetables/fruit.. agricultural carbs ARE entirely unnecessary for health.

also, heart disease, obesity, cholesterol issues and diabetes ONLY came to the surface since the agricultural era.. no coincidence. obesity rates climbed since the lowfat craze in the 70s/80s - modern society is fatter now because fats were branded the enemy and avoided like the plague, so people sourced the majority of their calories from carbs; look what happened.

however given the agricultural industry and the 'healthy' lowfat industries, I doubt carbs will ever disappear, and dieters will feel and look terrible sipping on their sugar-laden slimfast shakes and lowfat desserts, losing weight but not improving body composition (becoming a small fat person instead of a big fat person).

why do you think fats taste so good? the body needs them, therefore it craves them (that's my excuse anyway). no-one craves actual sugar, they crave the sugar high which comes and goes..

however for bodybuilding/strength training carbs do have their place, but should be utilised when they can only benefit and not detriment your health and body. that said, you could build a great physique/strength base on only pre-agricultural carbs as well, it's just not as easy.

 

[spesmilitis]

Obesity epidemic??? More like misinformation epidemic!!

 

[Throttle]

I don't care if obesity is an epidemic or not, but well-meaning people who were 100% wrong have caused entire nations of people to drag their diets in the wrong direction. I'm not sure what it's going to take to drag "the rest of us" away from our carbs...

 

[spesmilitis]

On carbs: what about potatoes? How do they compare to agricultural carbs? They both are dense in carbs, and I think potatoes have been around for a long time and consumed by humans throughout their evolution, not too sure though.

 

[Warboss Alex]

On carbs: what about potatoes? How do they compare to agricultural carbs? They both are dense in carbs, and I think potatoes have been around for a long time and consumed by humans throughout their evolution, not too sure though.

'ground carbs' - potatoes and sweet potatoes - are generally less offensive than grains and rice. but they are still starches which can screw with your insulin sensitivity. once you have weened yourself off starches you can experiment with adding small amounts of pots back in and see how you go.

 

[Frink']

What other sources of omega3's are there other than fish oil. Lets see flax seeds, walnuts ... anything else?

 

[Warboss Alex]

What other sources of omega3's are there other than fish oil. Lets see flax seeds, walnuts ... anything else?

almonds, some other seeds, grass fed beef, salmon, tuna steak, herring, mackerel..

but concentrated fish oil is superior to them all.

 

[simon]

Animal brains.

 

[Throttle]

omega-3 enhanced eggs may be cost-effective, depending on your local prices.

for example, the price of eggs has shot up here in the US due to feed prices, but omega-3 fed chickens are on a different feed. so where it was one $0.97 compared to ~$2, it's now $1.79 compared to $2.29. that's an easy choice.

 

[spesmilitis]

I think some sea plants such as kelp or algae have epa and/or dha. I heard oil for cold mammals such as seal oil are better than fish oil because it has DPA in addition to EPA and DHA. I haven't looked into this too much though, I have no idea what are the health benefits of DPA.