"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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if you are not her type, she is not your type

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have you guys had this realization?
if a girl rejects you, obviously you are not her type.
but did you know, she is also not your type?
in other words, if she is your type, she is going to give you a chance.
to put it another way, if you reject a girl, not only is she not your type, but also you are not her type.
does that sound right?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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I think this is true because even if she was the girl of your dreams on paper, if she's not actually into you then you wouldn't get the experience you're seeking even if you somehow convinced her to give you a chance (and that process would sour you on her most likely).
 

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That is something that a man with abundance will realize.

Guys, be true to yourself. Don't go after a woman because she seems unattainable. Focus that energy on women who appreciate you.

Loggers shouldn't try to get Treehuggers
Religious Fundamentalists shouldn't try to convert an atheist into a girlfriend
Blue collar guys shouldn't try to pursue Rich snobby socialites....

UNLESS she shows interest.....

sometimes it's just a matter of timing and interest. Maybe that rich chick wants to go slumming...
 

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That is something that a man with abundance will realize.

Guys, be true to yourself. Don't go after a woman because she seems unattainable. Focus that energy on women who appreciate you.

Loggers shouldn't try to get Treehuggers
Religious Fundamentalists shouldn't try to convert an atheist into a girlfriend
Blue collar guys shouldn't try to pursue Rich snobby socialites....

UNLESS she shows interest.....

sometimes it's just a matter of timing and interest. Maybe that rich chick wants to go slumming...
I think you get what I mean.
if a girl likes a guy with tattoos and I don't have tattoos, she is going to reject me. But that worked out perfectly because she wasn't my type because I don't like girls who like guys who have tattoos.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Like you think a girl is hot but she does not think you are hot. And because of this she is actually not your type?
 

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It might seem “cope-y” on the surface, but I think it’s still arguably true.

Maybe she is YOUR LOOKS type, but that says nothing about the compatibility between you too.

If you aren’t her type for ANY reason (including, but not limited to, looks), then the compatibility for dating isn’t there. Then you could argue that she’s not your type to date.
 

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If Chad won’t commit does that mean she isn’t Chads type? Of course it does, but you’ll never get her to admit it.
 

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The only type of women i attract are SJWs and Slvts with major daddy issues. Does that mean it's my type?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Then you could argue that she’s not your type to date.
Nah. I've slept with girls that were very much my type looks wise but with kind of annoying personalities. After we went out separate ways. You can be sure I would say yes to another hookup because they were hot. However if I hooked up with a chick that just barely passed my looks threshold but absolutely loved me. attentive to my needs etc If I didn't want to bang anymore cause "meh" looks wise, then I would still ghost.

If I got rejected by the hot chicks with the meh personality, then I'd cope with "well we wouldn't have been compatible date wise anyway" for her rejecting me on not being her type looks wise
 

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Like you think a girl is hot but she does not think you are hot. And because of this she is actually not your type?
by type I am not talking about looks. there are a lot of hot girls that I cannot stand because I can't find any signs of human intelligence in them. I need to see some signs of human intelligence to find someone attractive. No I am not saying she should understand the theory of relativity. Just some signs of human intelligence, anything. I will often test girls. for example the other day I was in line at a grocery store this girl told me are you in line? I said yes. she said "I will just use self-checkout" I said "ok that's fine by me". the intelligent type would either laugh or act in a way that tells me they understand this was a weird statement, and they understand it's a joke. dumb ones will just go about their day.
 

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I tried to look this up but wikipedia sucks I don't understand it
It's an absurd conclusion (actually, I think there is better Latin logic term, but I couldn't think of it). Think of it like this: let's say that you want a fit chick, but only fat chicks are interested in you - would that make fat chicks "your type"?

EDIT: I think this might be a better description of the logical fallacy here:
 
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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Like you think a girl is hot but she does not think you are hot. And because of this she is actually not your type?
Yes. Your type is a women who a) you like and b) is into you

If she's not into you, it means you haven't developed yourself to the point of being attractive enough to a certain quality of woman. If a certain quality of woman does not find you desirable, there's no point in thirsting after her in that moment.

I'm at the point where I am not interested in a woman unless she is also into me (finding her objectively attractive is one thing but actual interest is another). It sounds like a double-bind validation-based thing but it's really not. It is utterly pointless and outright counter-productive to pursue a women unless she displays high interest right away. That's literally what all thirsty simps do, they obsesss over any attractive women who they come across.

I tried to look this up but wikipedia sucks I don't understand it
It's in the name. It just means it's reductionistic to the point of absurdity. It's an intellectually lazy way of coming to a conclusion because it throws out all nuance. However, I do not think it applies to your argument at all. There's a huge difference between a simple argument and a reductionist argument.
 
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Yes. Your type is a women who a) you like and b) is into you
Man It's fvcking awesome when a chick I think is hot as fvck likes me too. But there also exists chicks that I think are hot as fvck that simply do not like me. That doesn't mean those chicks aren't my type too.
 

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Man It's fvcking awesome when a chick I think is hot as fvck likes me too. But there also exists chicks that I think are hot as fvck that simply do not like me. That doesn't mean those chicks aren't my type too.
I get what you're saying but my point is that you shouldn't be lusting after woman who aren't into you in the first place.
 

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have you guys had this realization?
if a girl rejects you, obviously you are not her type.
but did you know, she is also not your type?
in other words, if she is your type, she is going to give you a chance.
to put it another way, if you reject a girl, not only is she not your type, but also you are not her type.
does that sound right?
That is not logical at all. Doesn't even make sense.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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