"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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If she flirts with other guys... what to do

joker79

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guys I guess it's a situation you've been in at least once in your life. She flirts with other guys (alpha or beta) in front of you during a party, dinner, whatever. She seems not to bother if this annoys you or if it is disrespectful. Sometimes it seems that she doesn't care or doesn't get it but always throws the "I was just having fun" if you call her out on it. Funnily enough, I read recently an article about Bar refaeli (the supermodel) that got dumped by her bf who caught her flirting with Mick Jagger. think it's a lose-lose situation: if you call her out or get upset she will perceive you as weak and insecure, if you say nothing, she will persist in her disrespectful behaviour. What's the best strategy?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Bang her up the ass without lube - it always works.... then tell her off....
 

Who Dares Win

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The question is not "what to do", the question is "what not to do".

What you should not do is put any effort, energy or emotional investment in a girl that not only does not find you attractive enough to feel threathed of being left alone but also does not respect you enough to avoid putting you in such position.

Do you think a girl which you can trust because she wants you and has a high consideration in you would feel the need to flirt with other guys in front of you, and even if, would she do it right in front of you with the certainess to know that you are gonna take it?

Unless we move in the mind games and tricks kingdom which is a land we should not bother to visit since it surrounds our lifes, its a clear sign that she isnt that attracted to you nor even respect you as a person or recognize any manliness in you.

Its a lose-lose situation if you try to make it run as much as a squared wheels chariot, its a draw situation if you lose the girl but save time and mental health for the future.
 

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Text or call another plate and if you can hook up, go do it.

If you can't get a hold of another plate, just leave anyway.

I dumped a girl once for this. We were in an LTR. The funny thing was we had just had sex in the parking lot of a bar. Came back in and she started dancing with these other guys in a manor that displeased me. So I left. Went with one of my other plates. Went NC for a week then dumped her.

She texted me and said "You are leaving me because of how I behaved at the bar last weekend aren't you? I am so sorry" I didn't answer, just made her always wonder. Figured maybe she will behave better for the next guy.... NOT!!!

nnnnnnnn-n-n-n-n-nnnnnneeeeeeeext!!
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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PairPlusRoyalFlush said:
Sit around and wait to get cheated on and cuckold ed
This is quality advice. I would add, you should pay off any of her outstanding debt, even if that means you must go into debt. :rockon:

Also, start wrapping your head around Bi-sexuality.. on your part.
Assuming she rewards you with sex, you will be intimately involved with another mans "left overs". :cheer:
 

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TheBossman said:
This is quality advice. I would add, you should pay off any of her outstanding debt, even if that means you must go into debt. :rockon:

Also, start wrapping your head around Bi-sexuality.. on your part.
Assuming she rewards you with sex, you will be intimately involved with another mans "left overs". :cheer:
This is funny.
 

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Depends on how it makes you feel. About a year ago I'd say "dump the b*tch." However, in that year I've realized that I too am a big flirt. And it usually means nothing. Hell, I'll flirt with chicks I have no desire to bang. I just like to flirt. It makes me feel good and it's a mode of communication I understand and enjoy. Some people talk about work or sports or politics.. I flirt.

I'm not saying that any guy should date a big flirt, but often flirting is just an end in itself, not an intent to disrespect somebody or to seek out actual sex.

Having said that.. and this is probably hypocritical, but what the hell.. I don't think I'd date a chick who was a big flirt, even though I am one myself.
 

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Always a crappy situation to be in .
Just say goodbye. If she is really into you she will beg you and ask for a chance.
Then you lay the foundation of a real relationship.

It's a win win. She will se you are able to walk away anytime and respect you more if the relationship move forward .
 

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If you happen to be out to dinner and she's doing this, for d@mn sure don't pay the bill! Stick her with it. Just excuse yourself from the table and walkout. I've done that before.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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joker79

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my guess is that she's aware that she's disrespecting you, she know that such behaviour will push you away but at that point it's not a big deal for her, she is not that attracted to you. I can't believe that girls do not know that they're risking to upset you and lose you ... unless you picked up a completely dumb chick. Even in logicallefty story she realised (after NC) that her behaviour wasn't acceptable.

Overall I'd say that it's a big red flag, no matter what you do, no point to get angry or upset, just implement NC; not sure you can lay any foundation of something robust once a thing like that happens if she come's back. How can you trust her again?

@logicallylefty: have you had further interactions with her?
 
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