Fellas, I'm 19 currently 5'7" and around 125lbs. I've been told from people before that I should gain some lean muscle and bulk up. Would it make a difference with women? Would I get more interest, create more attraction and get more attention?
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If I bulk up will it help with women?
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What weight and bf% do you think would probably look ideal? And how would you say it would help with girls?
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Trolling on this site to waste everyone's time is absolutley pathetic
I'm not trolling man, I'm honestly looking for an answer and advice on it.
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Well no I'm not lifting just for women, I'm also lifting to get stronger overall. I'm asking if you think me gaining muscle and getting bigger would help with women instead of being rail skinny.
again it will not make diference if is just for woman, it will help maybe with that first impression, but that will also depend on how you dress and hold yourself, it can help with your confidence if you start to feel good about you
that is why I think you are asking the wrong question
I'm not trolling anyone bro, I'm just looking for an answer, just because someone asked a similar question a few days ago makes me a troll?
I'm not trolling I'm just looking for an answer to the question. So do you think it would help me out brah?
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I don't have pics right now, I'm very skinny 130lbs at most. So like how you said you achieved an aesthetic physique to get more puss, do you think it would help and benefit me to gain muscle and get to around 160 lean. How do you think it would change things for me with women once I gain muscle.
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That's what I'm talking about.
Do you have any advice or tips on flirting and game with them brotha. I'm trying to improve with that as well, I feel like the way my words and actions are received by them now would change when I'm more lean and muscular am I right?
Exactly that's the type of attitude I've been trying to adopt man, before with girls I feel like the convos wouldn't turn sexual or anything like that, I wasn't sure exactly how to make the interactions go that way, would you say the girls will try to also move the convos and interactions sexual? I'm trying to meet women everywhere not just limited to bars or clubs. Sometimes I've felt before that I don't know what to say to keep the convo interesting with them. I agree with the not trying too hard to flirt with them.
Yeah I feel like that's kinda been where I've made mistakes, I'll talk too much or sometimes I feel like I'll ask too many questions. For example the last girl I recently approached, the first time I went up introduced myself and handshake and chatted for a few minutes, I saw her maybe 2-3 times again over the next couple days and chatted for a few minutes each, it didn't work out. A few ppl told me I should've talked to her the first time and then waited for her to chase me instead of me going to her to talk each time, would you agree?
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How do you think I should ask for numbers, set up plans when I first meet them, I know keep the conversations short and then even when texting keep it short just for plans right? And what are good first texts after I get the number.
I'm going to make the gym and building a more attractive physique a priority. Guys before have told me having the attractive "hot" body, gives a great first impression and makes the "game" easier automatically since they're physically into you. Do you agree with that? Could you describe a little more about "physicality and having the swagger". I get that you shouldn't try too hard or flirt too much.
Yeah I understand what you're saying bro, I've heard from guys that going to the gym and getting bigger will raise my confidence, I'd say I have decent confidence already too. Often times I've felt like I've messed up either with the opener like I wasn't funny enough or able to get them interested enough during the conversation. Some people have told me that girls will be more talkative and wanna continue the conversation with me when I gain muscle bc they'll be attracted and turned on, do you think me getting bigger would help a lot with that?
Funny or interesting helps but being better looking/ more jacked lowers the threshold for it. Yes it would help a lot. I was 130 at one point and when I started getting to 150-160 I started getting more attention both sexual and not. More girls would happen to talk to me in class, around me, more matches when I used pictures online. Then beyond 160 helped even more. A lot of people say that if your personality is ass and you work out you won't get any girls but those people often don't work out because working causes personality changes in you, making you more aggressive, forward in pursuing women and more laidback and stoic in terms of life in general. My sense of humor is pretty constant but I when i was a stick at 130lbs it didn't matter much. Put on 20 pounds of mixed muscle and fat, then that will make you want to put on even more once you notice all the positive feedback in your life.
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I hate to burst your bubble but at 160 you are still a stick
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